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1 February

Blasle

Very good work my friend

2 February

Bomber14

Nice build but as usual you painted the wheel bays and covers the wrong color. they should be insignia white like the surrounding wing, same with the landing gear.

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2 February

Tank_1812 Patron

According to William Reece.
F4U-1A Corsair. Cockpit: FS 34151 Interior Green. All other areas of the F4U-1A were Zinc Chromate Yellow, FS 33481. Early F4U-1A’s may have been Salmon. Landing gear: Light Gray or Aluminum Lacquer. This was true well into the F4U-4 production. Some a/c may have had Insignia white landing gear after overhaul or repaint.

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3 February ▶ Tank_1812

Bomber14

first when i said you i didn’t mean you in particular but modelers in general seem to get this wrong. it is sort of a pet peeve of mine being the corsair is my favorite aircraft. have you checked dana bell, i talked personally with him about the corsair. also actual corsairs, books can be wrong as what you referenced. salmon was used briefly on the first few. there was a directive to paint all bays and gear aircraft color. even when they went to all blue the bays were painted the same color. there are pictures out there if you look. i do admit the all grey underside versions i am not sure of, maybe those were salmon but when repainted in tri color, which was actually a 4 color scheme by dana bell’s account, they were definitely painted insignia white. there are even instances where it was noted that the white wore off and some salmon showed through.

3 February

Tank_1812 Patron

That’s no my model Joe. While I have the kit, I don’t build fast or well enough for that to be build, I do wish it was. Hats off to Jose for this fine build. Only thing I would have changed was to use the VMF-321 markings or some other Marine markings, personally preference that doesn’t take away from his build.

I too also like the Corsair. I have not looked up Dana research, while I have a number of his books. I recall William discussing salmon color decades ago when I first met him at a club meeting, he is my goto on Naval aviation. While researching the details I came across multi post of his comments which I posted above. I have not spoken the William about colors only the kit in general. I freely admit there maybe newer research that the old posts do not account for.

So I think what you and I can agree on is the Jose did a build a nice model and review for us and others to discuss. :+1:

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3 February

Johnnych01 Regular

An excellent build. Looks superb.

4 February ▶ Bomber14

JoseM

Hi Bomber14, thanks for your clarification.
I must say I´m not a corsair expert and it seems my references were wrong. A new research shows that landing gear bay interior should be painted insignia white, at least for this version and period. Now I’m wondering whether to give it a white coat or leave it like that.
Beyond the painting issue, this model is great, with very fine details.
Another point where I did not find accurate information was in the antenna wire arrangement. If anyone have info on this it would be appreciated,

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4 February ▶ JoseM

Johnnych01 Regular

Welcome to the site and forums Jose. That Corsair is a really beautiful build … Fantastic detailing and great finish…

4 February

Tank_1812 Patron

Welcome Jose. I seconded John’s comments.

Best I figure reading Dana Bell’s post depends on the buno and timeframe.

For the plane you built.
“Another alternative that eliminated the forward antenna mast was to originate the antenna on the tip of the right horizontal stabilizer. It is shown here on Ira Kepford’s F4U-1A but it was typical on the F4U-2 night fighter. (Also note that this VF-17 F4U does not have the mast aft of the cockpit; it does, however, have a whip antenna in that location that is presumably for a VHF radio.)“

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4 February ▶ Tank_1812

JoseM

I wish I had had that information during the assembly process. Now I see that boht antenna mast were removed on Kepford´s F4U-1A :man_facepalming:

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4 February

Tank_1812 Patron

The 2nd law of modeling, the information you need will only come after you finished your project.

Personally I would keep it and try to fix on the next one.

4 February

JoseM

Hahahaha, that is completely true.

4 February

Johnnych01 Regular

I agree with Ryan for what it’s worth… This build is to nice to start redoing parts … Use the info for any future projects :+1:

4 February ▶ JoseM

Bomber14

like tank said it depends on the plane and time period. personally i too am confused about that. i just go with if the plane i am doing has a mast forward of the cockpit i run the line to it. if it has no mast aft then i go to the right stabilizer. i am not sure but i think from there it runs to the fuselage behind the cockpit. the wheel bay you can just airbrush insg white over the green since that is probably what was done on the real plane.
you did a fantastic job on the build all around, i really want to get that kit but am hoping they will sell them individually since the price is a little high for me.
Joe.

4 February ▶ JoseM

Bomber14

i am in no way an expert, i leave that to dana bell, but i have learned a lot about them and am still learning. the info here about the radio antenna is a great help but still leave a lot for interpretation. i see now i ran the ariel wrong for my korean war -4 corsair.

4 February ▶ Tank_1812

Bomber14

it is also something i have noticed in b&w photos that you can see the inside of the bay doors and the gear are the same shade as the white underside. i also have read other accounts that the bays were painted body color not int green or zinc. could there been some painted int green/zinc? sure there probably were. a lot of aircraft were repainted in the field, and you have to remember restored aircraft are not necessarily correct. for instance most restored aircraft in the tri color scheme are technically wrong. the wings were painted a different shade of blue than the fuselage but even dana bell admitted to me the closeness in shade and the wear of the crews and fading from the weather make it difficult to discern. i normally do not bother with it. i wish i could talk to dana again, i have some more questions for him.

4 February

Bomber14

jose can you show what you made the spring on the gear with and how you made them? thanks-

Joe

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4 February ▶ Bomber14

JoseM

Made the spring from a thin cupper wire I got from an old headphones. This cupper wire is really thin. I wrapped it around a 05mm drill, and stretched it a little to obtain the spring shape. When I cut the plastic off, I leaved a tiny bolt of plastic to secure the spring with ciano.