Border go Allied with two Sherman kits coming,

Except that the box art ALSO depicts this “unnatural” combination. Since the box art was based on a scene from the movie “Fury” that actually used a CORRECT large-hatch 47* hull to film, it seems pretty clear that Border planned and intended what was inside the box to be the same as what was shown on the outside of the box…

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It’s a pair of external radio loudspeakers on some sort of locally fabricated mount.

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He drove the BN commanders jeep. He did no tanking.

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This is why I never preorder.

Anyone who makes a decision about buying a model kit based on anything other than the model kit itself is making a mistake.

KL

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Yes. There are plenty of those people out there.

When someone on this site asks a question like: “I’m building X but from what I can tell the Z assembly is wrong. How can I fix that?” one can almost count on the fact that there will be a “It’s your model, build it the way you want” type response within the first five.

How many times have you heard or read someone offer the “looks like a duck to me” saying to justify getting a kit that isn’t “totally accurate”?

There are far more people in this hobby who want a model they can paint and weather than want a kit that sets new standards for detailing and accuracy.

KL

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For many that visit Armaroma this Border Sherman (heck most Border products from what I hear) would probably not meet their needs. That is fine, not the first or last company that will do that. Plenty of other companies ready to meet that need. For other modelers it would even with the wrong combination as they just want to have an easy build to paint and stick on the shelf that represents a Sherman. Might not be my cup of tea but nothing wrong with how they choose to enjoy the hobby. Don’t get modelers who think that every company has to build kit to their standards and every modeler has to enjoy the hobby the same way.

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Sorry I missed your question - lotsa stuff going on here the last few days. I had only seen a few extra scenes on YT before, but last night I found this: [https://youtu.be/M09yK3q7rN0?feature=shared] which contains an hour of deleted scenes/outtakes, sometimes two versions of the same scene (apparently from the director’s cut).

I don’t think any of them would have added much to the finished film, but it’s very cool to see the actors strut their stuff in some scenes that are almost like on a theater stage. Great performances.

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Here here.Agreed.

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I rather liked the theater version - you see War Daddy’s burns and assume he must have gotten them in a burning tank, No spoilers for those who haven’t seen it, but apparently the cut scene is an homage to the real life Jailbird.

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Yeah, that’s a big mistake, IMO that combination could only have existed like in the early days of the IDF when they were cobbling tanks together from parts of other tanks. There’s an image somewhere of a small hatch M51 so in IDF service this sort of thing actually happened…

The moldings themselves remind me of or look like they’re Asuka parts, maybe they got the wrong sprue tree for the hull because Asuka released the Large Hatch A1 a few years ago. Asuka has sold their kits thru several other companies in the past including Tamiya…BUT I don’t think I’ve ever seen one of those releases combine wrong parts before…

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I got it: Border’s next Sherman release will be a Korean war era 'E8 with a low bustle 75mm turret.

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Uh, sorry am totally late to this conversation but those tracks on the Border Sherman image, what are they? they are not T62, and the chevron is too rounded to be T54E1 track, they kind of look like T54E2 tracks? If they are, that’s the first time I’ve ever seen those put out in a kit before…maybe an aftermarket company has made them before but I’ve never seen that type of track in 1/35th before and I’m not sure I’ve seen them in vintage Sherman tank images either…

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T54E2
http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/tracks/vvss_tracks.html

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great point, it seems like a legitimate SNAFU for sure…

as for the T54E2 tracks, how common were they? I’ll have to go and look through my Sherman reference books to see if I can find a vintage image of a Sherman with those types of tracks. I’ve probably seen them in the past and didn’t pay much attention. The tracks on most VVSS kits I’ve seen are T48, T49, T54E1, T62, T51, and on rare occasions you see T41 and WE210 tracks too…

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The intention was probably to get fans of the Movie to buy the kit? I’m not sure any disrespect was intended…whether the buyer’d create a diorama with a tiger destroying this tank or just add it to some kind of Fury film model collection of builds as one of the destroyed Shermans? IDK, but it’s unusual for sure, the art itself is colorful and fun to look at but for the fact that Border botched the hatches on the Art itself…so the box art becomes a metaphor for what comes in the box? :wink:

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Agreed . A good DD would be a automatic purchase. Probably 2 as you have to have a top-up and a top-down!

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I’m not an expert in the history of model kits, but to my limited knowledge, there’s never been a plastic kit of a DD Sherman tank…I know that Resicast has for some time now made some full resin kits of M4A1 and M4A4 DDs both with the canvas in the down position and also with it completely removed as seen in period photos of DDs that were in combat days and weeks after D-Day…

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No there hasn’t been. Not in 1/35 injection molded styrene.

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From an engineering POV a DD Sherman sounds like a complete nightmare and from a business POV it sounds like something that would be very expensive to manufacture in terms of material costs and it’s not a subject that has broad appeal across the AFV modeling community…but you never know, someone might decide to tackle that beast at some point…Some time back I never thought I’d see a Ram tank in plastic and then Bronco stepped up, I’m not so sure if it was a sound investment for them tho…

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I don’t think it would need more than one or two sprues of parts to do the screens in folded position, and the other associated parts such as the props & drive housings.
Popularity? I suspect it might be more popular than some would imagine. Hundreds were converted and used in Normandy, Southern France, and the Rhine Crossing. It’s not like they were a one off or paper panzer.

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