Funk Holes, Parapet or Parados, that is the question

Hi all.

Not sure if this question is best posted here or in ‘dioramas’, but here goes, :roll_eyes: :roll_eyes:

I aim to model a short length of British ‘Fire Trench’ of mid-to-late war period in 1/35th scale and would like to include a ‘Funk Hole’.

Most articles I have read describe bunkers/dugouts, and talk about their respective entrances being situated mainly on the ‘parapet’ side (front of trench facing the enemy) so as to reduce the risk of shells falling through the entranceway.

Though I seem to recall reading that ‘funk holes’ were situated on the ‘parados’ side (the rear wall of the trench) due to the risk of the shallow excavations undermining the ‘parapet’, :thinking:.
However, I have scanned through the books I have and cannot find the supporting statement, :pensive:.

Therefore, my question is this…am I imagining that I read such a statement, or is my recollection correct?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers, :beer:,

G

I have no idea … hope that helps … lol … sorry, couldnt resist it.

On a serious note G, will it be built up high to show the full trench with possible side view cut outs to see inside ? or you just attempting a basic trench lines showing the openings ? sounds an interesting plan. :+1:

G-Man69,
Regarding your query, you may find an answer by checking out Andy Belsey’s website …
www.andybelseymodels.wixsite.com

Andy specialises in WWI subjects, in particular trench warfare, and has created a series of cutaway models on this very subject. He has also written a book, ‘Modelling World War I Trench Warfare’.

Certainly worth a look.

Paul

G-Man69

https://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/gutenberg.org/4/4/7/3/44734/44734-h/44734-h.htm

You might find some of the drawings useful and it’s open source.

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Hi Paul

Looks like the link doesn’t work… :roll_eyes:

Here’s a working one : https://andybelseymodels.wixsite.com/mysite

Thanks for the tip BTW !

H.P.

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The link Frenchy added is amazing … some of the detailing and how they have been built and finished is simply stunning. They are all museum pieces in quality.

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I might have something usefull here:

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Thanks for your response John, it helps…not, :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:.

Initially I was thinking of a basic trench line as I will be working within my usual self-imposed A4 footprint, with the line running at a slight angle across the longer dimension of A4, so wouldn’t have the room to come down and forward to a proper dugout.

However, after your question you’ve made me rethink whether it might be possible to run the line across the shorter dimension towards one end of the A4 and then come down to a dugout at the other end…food for thought my friend, :slightly_smiling_face:.

Cheers, :beer:,

G

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A big thank you to Paul, Colin, Henri-Pierre, and Erwin for your suggestions and links, they’re all much appreciated, :+1: :slightly_smiling_face:.

I found the confirmation that I wasn’t going mad…well, least no madder than usual, :roll_eyes: :smirk:…and imagining things in the link provided by Colin…

…The first ones that are made will be very primitive, and will be very much like a fireplace in a room—simply excavations in the back wall of the trench almost on a level with the bottom of it. At first they used to be dug in the front of the trench, but this practice was discontinued as it was found to weaken the power of resistance of the very important parapet…

…Though I still can’t find where I originally read it, :thinking: :unamused:.

I agree with John about the work of Andy Belsey, it’s so good it nearly dissuaded me from continuing as mine will be far inferior, :pensive:.

Thanks again to all, and cheers, :beer:,

G

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Hi Irwin,

Sorry for not responding sooner but we have guests staying and it’s not been easy to break away for a few hours, though I did manage today…and got to the post office.

I have the majority of the books listed, though the last two are not titles I recognise, ‘Digging the Trenches’ and ‘War on the Western Front’.

Cheers,

G

I’ll send those 2 books per the usual way… :slight_smile: