M-ATV questions

I am looking for information on the USMC M1240 M-ATV. Did the USMC use the DUKE 2 antenna, the fall over antenna mount and the Rhino? Some photos I found shows those specific parts and said they were USMC but I am not sure if the descriptions are accurate or not.

The US Army usually has ID markings on the side of the door starting in an “M” and unit markings on the front bumper. I have noticed some M-ATV’s don’t have any markings at all. Here are some US Army M-ATV’s with ID markings. The first image shows the ID on the door. The second one shows the unit on the bumper and you can barely see the markings on the side of the door.

This one is US Army from the description I found but has no ID markings at all.

Here are some USMC M-ATV’s showing the markings on the side of the door and on the side of the hood specifically denoting they are USMC.

These below, the descriptions say they are USMC but they have the same ID markings on the side of the door as the US Army M-ATV’s have. They do look faded as if they tried to remove them. Are these borrowed from the US Army or given to the USMC from US Army stocks?

The first one you can see they are wearing desert MARPAT and the description says, 3rd Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, Combat Outpost Ouellette, Helmand province, Afghanistan, March 17, 2011. The second image is cropped and zoomed in and you can see the original US Army style marking on the door. Looks like the ID is MYODJS. This specific vehicle has the DUKE 2 antenna, the fall over antenna mount and the Rhino.

This one also said USMC but I forgot to save the original description. The second image is also cropped and zoomed in to show the original US Army marking on the side of the door. This one is more faded though and harder to see. Looks like the ID is MYOJZA. This vehicle also has the DUKE 2 antenna, the fall over antenna mount, Rhino and the Boomerang sniper detection system..

In this image, you can see an M-ATV behind the LVSR with the LVSR having the USMC ID on the front. The M-ATV behind the LSVR has the DUKE 2.

Are the M-ATV’s that I showed as USMC according to the descriptions I found actually USMC M-ATV’s?

Thanks for your help.

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A little late response, but yes all those M-ATV pics that you’re questioning are early USMC. They’re from 2011 in Afghanistan. In one you can also make out the crew in MARPAT. The “M” number was also repeated on the left rear bumper.

I’m not an expert on the subject, going from pics I’ve seen, by around 2012 there seemed to be a mix of USMC M-ATVs in Afghanistan with this type of marking and the standard “USMC-” marking numbers on the hood. Others also had only the number in larger sized stencil on the hood (no “USMC”). Here’s example from late 2012:

And here’s one of the pic you posted and caption/unit info: https://www.marines.mil/Photos/igphoto/170757/

Jan 26, 2011 A Mine Resistant Armor Protected All Terrain Vehicle belonging to Company L, Battalion Landing Team 3/8, 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, Regimental Combat Team 2, prepares to leave friendly lines on a convoy in the Helmond province, Afghanistan, Jan. 26, 2011. Elements of the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit deployed to Afghanistan to provide regional security in Helmand province in support of the International Security Assistance Force.

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Thanks for the reply.

I am planning to make one as USMC. Deciding on which one from these two. The one with the Boomerang sniper detection might be the one but I need to find a Boomerang set.

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Found another M-ATV that has the DUKE 2 antenna and the fall over antenna mount on Wikipedia with the description saying USMC. Wikipedia isn’t the best source but the uniform looks like desert MARPAT from what I can see.

An Expeditionary Fire Support System (EFSS) belonging to F Battery 2/12, Battalion Landing Team 3/8, 26th marine Expeditionary Unit, Regimental Combat Team 2, is being towed by a Mine Resistant Armor Protected All-Terrain Vehicle aboard Combat Outpost Ouellette, Helmand province, Afghanistan, Jan. 29, 2011. This is the first time that EFSS has been employed in Afghanistan. Elements of 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit deployed to Afghanistan to provide regional security in Helmand Province in support of the International Security Assistance Force.

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From my experience there are copies from elsewhere.

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Thanks! Wikipedia copied it directly from the DVIDS page. DVIDS confirms it is actually a USMC M-ATV.

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Looking for info on this M-ATV shown below with the LRAS3.

I found this Polish model page https://modelwork.pl/topic/34925-m1151-hmmwv-z-lras3-academy-135/page/7/ showing Grzegorz Grabowski building a HMMWV with the LRAS3 and he shows a cutout on the right side of the turret to fit the LRAS3. I am guessing the cutout would be the same as on the M-ATV shown above? Also, is the LRAS3 mounted the same on the M-ATV as shown on Grzegorz Grabowski’s HMMWV?

Would this be the same base mount used on the M-ATV? Would anyone have any better photos showing the base plate the mount is attached to?

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for the LRAS3 the yoke is the same for HMMWV, MATV, Stryker RV, etc. As for the DUKE systems the 105D is the normal antenna along with the flatpanel up front.

Recently (last year-ish) the 105D have been replaced with another type of antenna

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Thanks for the info.

I found photos of the base mount here on Armorama. Unfortunately, it seems none available in 1/35. I have the LRAS3 parts from the Trumpeter M1127 kit that I got from Trumpeter customer service I was planning to fit to an M-ATV. Looks like I have to scratch build the base plate and mount.

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The LRAS mount is the same for the M220 TOW system if you have one of those laying around.

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I’ll have a look at my walk around later and see what I can find. Or you can just purchase it. Best deal on the planet. :slight_smile:

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I found a photo showing the LRAS3 on the original TOW mount on the HMMWV.

The mount was upgraded to the one shown below on another HMMWV. I am guessing the M-ATV uses this later style mount.

Here you can see the later style mount and base plate.

Not sure I can scratch build the mount but I will attempt the base plate. If I can scratch build the base plate I will more than likely just use the TOW mount as the later style mount is a bit more complicated.

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Anyone have any closeups of the rail system on the .50 cal as seen in the photo below? My search isn’t finding anything.

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Thanks! Greatly appreciated! I spent an hour searching and typed in all sorts of search criteria including Surefire Hellfighter and only Live Resin and Legend stuff came up. I even put in Surefire crew weapons light and still nothing.

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Thanks to Rob for the M2 rail reference photos, I was able to find a small collar from the RFM M1A2 SEP V2 kit on parts tree “S” with the CROWS parts. I didn’t look in the instructions to see what that part is for but I did get that particular “S” parts tree separately off Ebay a few years ago so will use it for the M2 rail.

Here is the part I will be using as the collar. I need to sand down the raised areas to make them flush. I need to scratch the rails next.

Here it is test fitted over the barrel. It floats over the barrel but not sure of the correct position for it. Is it supposed to sit flush at the front of the barrel support where I pointed out as #2 or does it sit in front of the barrel quick change handle by point #1?

In this cropped photo below, it looks like it sits flush at the front of the barrel support.

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The railed come on the packaged weapon sets for various M4 platforms. I think they were Trumpeter. I can look when I get home.

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Thanks! I found some Live Resin rails in my spares box.

I got the rails attached to the RFM .50 cal. Still needs a little more work. It is only dry fitted for now. The collar and bars are from the Legend .50 cal that I cut and modified to fit. It isn’t the same as the one in the original photos but works for my needs. The rails are from Live Resin.

I also scratch built the base plate for the LRAS3 mount. I haven’t started on the actual mount yet. The base plate still needs a lot of cleanup. I messed up the second triangle cutout from the top. It is rotated the wrong way but not going to make a new one. It will be mostly unseen anyway once the LRAS3 is in place. Again, it is only test fitted.

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