Panzerjager Nashorn Tamiya - Need help

Questions about the Panzerjäger Nashorn.
Good evening, colleagues. I’d like to refurbish my Tamiya kit, which is about 10 years old. One of my concerns is that I’ve seen in some photos of real vehicles in action that was at least one headset, but the kit didn’t include this equipment (no connection box). I thought it must be available because there must be a way for the gunner and/or the vehicle commander to communicate with the driver and radio operator, who are isolated inside the hull. I’ve looked for photos and literature on the subject but haven’t found much.
Does anyone have any information on what this intercom system looks like?

The only pic I’ve found.

Thank you!



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Does this help?

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/passion-models-p35t-010-nashorn-command-vehicle-radio-set--1533989

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Hi, Dan!
Thank you so much for your prompt reply. This kit you suggested makes the command version of the Nashorn. I don’t actually need all of that. I just want to make the standard version. I need a picture of the connectors and wiring for the intercoms, which are located (Iguess!?) on the internal armored walls of the gun compartment. If anybody could find an image showing this, it would solve my dilemma.

Thanks a lot!

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Glad to help

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1/6th scale model kit :

H.P.

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Thank you very much, Frenchy!

Those drawings will help me a lot. :innocent:

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I’ve never found images of the layout of comms equipment inside a Nashorn.

But, according to Ellissen, the standard Nashorn used the Fu.Spr.d radio set. It was the same as this Fu.Spr.a except for the frequency range.

It had a 1.4 meter antenna on the standard rubber base. Its power transformer was the Se.U.a

The intercom controller was the Kasten 23 or 23a. I can’t find a good image of the 23 but it’s the same size and shape as this 20.

The FuSprech radios were typically used with the round loudspeaker, but since the Nashorn had an intercom, the loudspeaker was perhaps not used.

This photo is some other vehicle. The SEUa is under the radio.

I can show you how they get wired up, if you need?

David

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Update: I went looking and I found this blurry image of another SP gun, I’m not sure which type.

It has the same setup that Ellissen quotes for the Nashorn. A FuSprech radio combined with a Kasten 23 intercom.
And you’ll notice that the round speaker is present too.

David

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Update: going back to the Nashorn itself, I found this, which I wasn’t aware of:

The antenna is beside an enclosed radio operator’s compartment.

That implies the radio and probably the intercom are hidden away inside there.

David

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Hi, Dan!
I think the Nashorn’s main radio equipment should be installed next to the radio operator’s position, next to the driver, inside the hull. Only the wires and connectors for the microphones and headphones are exposed at the gun position. The exception is when it’s a command vehicle (as your first link showed). I don’t even want to go into too much detail about this equipment to avoid making my task a nightmare. It would be enough to just see how it’s installed inside the gun position.
The information you have is very useful and will certainly help me a lot.
Thank you again for this.

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Yes indeed! It means that only the wiring and connectors should been visible in the fighting compartment.

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David that is the radio set up for a Marder iii M.

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OK, I found something for you.

A video walkaround of the Nashorn stored at APG. (that was a link)

It’s the Command version, so it had the Fu 8 radio on the right hand side; but I believe that its left hand side was the same as the standard version.

This is the cabling for the intercom, and other electrical cables, emerging from the floor.

This is a grouping of electrical stuff on the left side about halfway along. There’s a 12V power socket, a dimmer lamp, and the gunner’s headset socket box. There’s an arm above them, on a hinge, and it’s visible in the two photos that you posted; it’s the support for the scissors scope.

At the rear corner of the vehicle is another socket box, I’m guessing it is for the commander. You can see the gunner’s box here also.

This is a wartime photo. The gear has been banged up a bit, it seems, but we can see that the gunner’s socket box is still hanging in there, and it seems to have its usual grey colour, not the vehicle colour.

The loader doesn’t have a headset, so that should be the entirety of the visible communications equipment in a standard Nashorn.

I found a circuit to confirm that the Kasten 23 intercom box can support two remote users, as well as the driver and radio operator who plug directly into it.

David

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Wow! This was exactly what I was looking for, David. There was an intercom connector for the gunner, above the ammunition storage box. And another one, further back, in the rear left corner, where I imagine the vehicle commander would be.
Thank you so much for kindly research and passing on the information.

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