Hello everybody,
and today finally to the gutters on the Side 4, which basically have the same structure as the gutters on Side 2. The only difference is that there is no console in the Bay 17 as on the Side 2, and therefore there is also no recess as shown on this image on the MLP-2 during STS-8. 
Source: NASA
As a result, there are only two gutters on Side 4, which can be seen in this image a bit better. For dimensioning it is only important to determine the distances in the recess in the Bay 10,
Source: apollosaturn.com (John Duncan)
in which the box for the Fire Hose Reel was installed earlier. The two gutter ends at the beginning and at the end of the side have the same outward lowering structure, as can be seen in this image,
Source: apollosaturn.com (John Duncan)
which again have to be glued with blunt ends, but this time immediately with Gator’s Grip.
For the cutting of the aluminium sheet metal strips (0,1 mm) was used a small montage sketch as usual. 
Then, again, the rounding of the gutters followed in the usual way, here first the short initial piece of Gutter 1 in Bay 1, which was relatively simple,
and then the long piece, which was already somewhat more tricky. 
As far as for today. 
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Hello everyone,
first of all, still a small supplement to the strength or resilience of the gluing with Gator’s Grip.
It was even possible to smooth the glue contact with a sanding stick, and the 0,1 mm contact seam was resistent and is not broken apart, which would have happened by using CA. 
Hard to believe, but true! The stuff is really worth the money. 
And now to the still remaining Gutter 2 on the Side 4.
While the rounding of the long gutter strip with the help of the half-pipe and core wires up to Ø 4 mm is relatively easy, it is known to become more tricky below this level.
This is why I have clamped the brass core wire (Ø 2 mm) this time over the rounded gutter strip on the table and pressed the edges from both sides by sliding along with a rounded magnet, because unsightly kinks can be prevented this way.
This is followed by the last rounding step with the core wire Ø 1,5 mm.
Any slight longitudinal distortions of the gutter can be compensated on the narrow rounded plastic core strip,
so that Gutter 2 is finally finished too.
As the crowning end of the gutter chapter, next the gluing of the Gutter Supports follows, but this time also with the Gator’s Grip.
Then let’s go.
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lovely work with that guttering Manfred, very nice indeed.
Thanks John, but it’s a delicate and tricky matter, not for the faint of heart!
BTW, you seem to be the only one who is interested in this stuff here. 
Hello everybody,
before the 14 supports (with lower strip) could be glued to the two gutters, they had to be scratch-built, of course, with full concentration, a calm hand and good eyes.
And already the gluing of the sickles on the tiny strips was again the expected tricky matter as with the gutters on the Side 2. 
Since these are again the same procedures and handgrips, I will only briefly illustrate them by picture.
With a few supports as a reserve, the gluing of the supports onto the gutter continued.
After the bottom of the gutter was glued into the short piece, the outer support without strip was glued.
This time I did not glue the supports on the long gutter individually, but at the same time three at one go clamped between cutter edges.
Afterwards, the contact points on the gutter were dabbed with CA and then the core strip with the gutter were lowered to the supports and thus glued.
Subsequently the remaining five supports were glued.
Since the last support had not glued completely, it was glued once more.
Next, the short initial gutter is glued to the long Gutter 1, this time with Gator’s Grip.
Later, the Gutter 2 will follow.
And now I wish y’all Merry Christmas and a Happy and peaceful New year. 
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Love how you utilized different types of tool to achieve the end result. For example, I never thought about magnets 
to hold arts together for cutting…genius!!
Merry Christmas my friend.
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No, just been out of town and just catching up.
I like Gator Glue. It’s very similar to Liquitex Gloss Gel medium you find in the oil paint section. The down side is the long set up for these options, which in some cases is a plus.
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Thanks Mike for your nice Christmas wishes. 
Yes, you can’t run out of ideas, but luckily I have plenty; you just have to know how to help yourself. 
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This Liquitex Gloss Gel I don’t know so far.
Merry Christmas for all my friends, wherever you may be … 
It looks like winter is really coming. 
Sorry for my long absence, my Vacation in the USA and Canada was fantastic, simply amazing. 
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Im far from the only one Manfred, there are lots of silent watchers in the background my friend 
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They’re invisible to me. Not everyone is as interested and communicative as you.
Even Mike (Stryker45), who brought me here, only gets in touch once in a blue moon. 
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Like I said looks similar.
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I’m here brother but at times it is just quick glance. Busy talking care of mother and family. But but but…I’m here!
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Hi Mike,
I hope your mother gets better soon and I’m praying for her. 
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Hello everybody,
I wish all a Happy New Year. 
Source: californiasciencecenter.org
Let’s all keep our fingers crossed, 
that the new exhibition hall at the Samuel Oschin Air and Space Center in LA will finally open for Endeavour this year. 
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Hey folks and welcome in 2026,
yeah, yeah, yeah, it still goes on with these boring gutters, I can not change it, sorry.
In the case of the dull gluing of the gutters, a smooth seating and an exact fixing of the position is very important, so that nothing can shift.
Then the seam was gently painted with Gator’s Grip and let it to dry.
And as one can see, the gluing also holds this time.
Tomorrow I will carefully smooth the seam. 
And so once again back to the Gutter 1 on the Side 2, where the two parts also had to be glued bluntly.
Here, at first, the fitting test of the two parts,
which I made this time even more securely aligned and stabilized before gluing.
And this gluing was also successful, 
and can be smoothed tomorrow.
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Yet more great work …. Those seams must have needed lots of extra care, being how delicate they are
That’s right, John, those gutters are extremely fragile structures.
Hello everybody,
and thus to the last round with these tiresome gutters.
Here was only still missing the Gutter 2 on the Side 4, the beginning of which is shown here.
Source: apollosaturn.com (John Duncan)
The gutter begins directly on the girder between the Bay 10 and 11 and then runs without interruption to the end of the Bay 18, whereby the last part behind the downspout becomes again lower towards the outside.
Source: apollosaturn.com (John Duncan)
And these are the two parts of the gutter.
At first, the gutter bottom was glued with CA, again using Teflon foil as gluing protection.
And then it went on with the supports,
which were clamped for exact fixing again between Cutter Blades.
Then I have left the gutter alone,
and thereafter examined the seat of the supports, which was okay.
This was followed by the last dull gluing of the two gutter parts with Gator’s Grip,
which again has worked great. 
Hence all five gutters with a total of 34 supports have finally been scratched, 
above for the Side 2, and below for the Side 4,
and now I feel truly relieved.
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