1st Battalion 2nd Field Artillery in MASSTER

Exactly. It had just never occurred to me that if we shot one, that it wouldn’t be about 2-3 MAP SHEETS away when it went off!! The idea was that if we ever shot one, the entire battery would take cover in some underground positions (as if we’d have time for that!) and whoever shot the round would be inside some bunker with a 100 foot lanyard attached to the firing lock so they’d be able to take cover.

I mean after all, its’ still only a ballistic 155mm round. It probably ain’t going but about 9-10 klicks no matter what.

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This was post ODS so that stuff didn’t go or get maintained, and they were going to DRMO as is so DIVARTY would not spend $$ to maintain

Tom, I know so well of the documents of which you speak – or rather, not dissimilar iterations. Please forgive and yet permit me a thread hijack!

A little further up the food chain, that is at Army Group, I resided (on exercise) in what was known as the Cosmic Top-Secret registry; basically, anything to do with CTS was all about nuclear weapons, and, well, how to put it? More or less the nuclear destruction of eastern Germany, any western bits which we may not have been able to hold, and a fair chunk of western Russia to take care of those pesky reinforcement units. Oh, and probably lighting up Poland on the way.

I never had either the time, or really the inclination to study what I was custodian of; to be honest, pages and pages of target data, burst heights and fuse details probably wouldn’t have meant much to me, besides, I was slightly more interested in the WAAF I was destined to work with.

My normal day job within the Army Group HQ, and frankly, one I detested, was as 50% of the G1/G5/CCP Typing Pool. Yup – typing pool. There I was, fresh from a Divisional HQ in southern UK, always on exercise in Denmark or Schleswig-Holstein, having risen from Private to full Corporal during my what, 3-year tenure there, bursting at the seams with enthusiasm (probably too much so as I’m sure it manifested itself in a certain cockiness and mouthiness – not unique amongst young Corporals perhaps?), posted back to Germany which I loved, and I’m put in the bloody typing pool. It had its moments; my counterpart was a Belgian Para Commando called Jules. As the 2 official NATO languages are French and English, he did all the French stuff, and me the English. Apart from making me a passive smoker, he was quite good fun, keen to improve his English and replete with hair-curling tales of massacres in the Congo.

My mobilization role though was much more interesting, even as I say, I didn’t really have time to “enjoy” if that’s the right word, the subject matter.

HQ NORTHAG split into two HQs upon the balloon going up: Static, and Mobile. The Static War HQ (SWHQ) was set up in a cave system which began military life in the hands of the Romans; the Germans tarted it all up a bit and used it for the production of V weapons in WW2, and then in the late 40s/early 50s, NATO added concrete, cabling, lighting, heating, air-conditioning, cookhouse, bar, well, you get the picture. It also had living accommodation for the great and the good, and when not used for exercise was manned by the respective nations from HQ TWOATAF (2nd Allied Tactical Air Force), our air counterpart HQ. The constituent nations being Brits, Dutch, Germans and Belgians; we were due US reinforcements too and as ever, we had the nuclear surety teams co-located.

I was assigned to the joint CTS Registry; this was run really by the TWOATAF bods, which in this case consisted of an RAF Flight Sergeant, and a female WRAF full Corporal equivalent, and, on exercise or the real thing, me folks.

Now, I may have thought that typing was boring, and in the G1/G5 world it was, but I had not reckoned on the stifling aspects of document security when it came to such high-grade material. There were the normal document registers, and the NATO ones were more or less the same as the Brit ones I was a Ninja on, after all, a register is a register. But, with CTS stuff, before handing it over to the requesting staff branches, the document had to be page-counted, there and then, whilst the hapless requesting Clerk stood twiddling his thumbs the other side of the security grill. Once that had been done, he signed for it, and off he went back to his staff cell – normally G3 Special Weapons or G3 Plans. Once they’d finished with it, whatever iteration of document it was, it was brought back, and had to be page counted again. Now, if a document say, consisted of 25, or 50 pages, all well and good, not too much of a chore, but some of these times were inches thick, with separate annexures and appendices, which are all page-numbered differently, so a far from straightforward task.

At the end of each shift, we normally worked 12 on, 12 off, the whole Registry’s holdings had to be checked before handover; if documents were still absent, receipts or signatures all had to be reconciled. All this could easily eat into your down time as it could take up to 2 hours or so; this had implications in that one then missed the transport to take one over the border to a Belgian Army barracks at Tongeren, where us lesser mortals resided. SNCOs and above, and all the bloody girls on exercise, were all billeted in hotels in Maastricht!

So that was me on exercise, more or less, for 7 days or so; sometimes, it was quite eerie, in that there was a speaker system throughout most of the Staff cells and one could listen to the Corps Commanders report in twice a day, to the Army Group Commander. Often these would include the number of nuclear strikes received in a Corps area. I should just point out that the exercise scenarios were extremely well written and pretty realistic, or at least up to a point.

The accountability of the CTS documents didn’t end with the exercise finishing; we had to decamp back to the massive HQ at Rheindahlen, where the documents had to be checked in back to their peace-time registries – NORTHAF and TWOATAF respectively, and this involved, yes, you’ve guessed it, endless page counting. Every last document had to be page-counted. The number of documents had to be in at least 3 figures, and in my case, there were 2 x SNCOs and me, in the NORTHAG Registry, sat surrounded by piles of documents, counting away, while the rest of the military world was showered, changed and drinking their own body-weight in beer – exercises always ended on a Friday afternoon.

There was a quirk in all this: the senior officer responsible for security, in this case a British Brigadier, could not go home himself, until we reported to him that Alles was indeed, in Ordnung, and he in turn had to report that to COSNORTHAG (a German Major General). This particular Brigadier was impatient, and at times obnoxious; (quelle surprise) he learned the hard way not to interrupt the Clerks when they were counting, viz the following interchange:

Busy Staff Sergeant (or even me): “Two hundred and thirty nine, two hundred and forty…”

Testy Brigadier: “For Chrissake Staff how much longer is this going to take?”

Busy Staff Sergeant: “Sigh; one, two….”

As I say Tom, apologies for the hijack, and I know this is dull stuff, but then a lot of Army stuff is dull stuff(!)

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Turning in the contents of the safes was harder to do than the equipment. Although I think most of it went into the shredder, we did have to use the sledges on the crypto keys and hard drives etc. the turn in team from Big Army signed off and we dumped the bits into 55 gal drums and they went off to wherever. Some say Army FA lost something when the nuclear mission went away…maybe for a time, but I got to work with a lot of AF nuclear types and heard a lot of the issues they had/still have so I think the Army dodged a bullet in a way.

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It follows that most of us who came into contact with such classified stuff had to be security cleared to a very high level; this was known in the British Army back then as Positive Vetting (as opposed to Normal Vetting which was for those a bit further down the food chain). It must have been a hugely expensive process, and certainly gruelling for those being interviewed to attain such clearance. Most of us in Army Group HQ were “PVd”.

I recall an occasion on one of the high-level exercises we practised, another very senior officer (Brit) - not on the Staff of the Army Group HQ but attached for the exercise - upon receipt of a sealed classified message, had to enquire, somewhat tetchily, amongst the office personnel “Who here is cleared to Cosmic Top Secret?” A great mate of mine, in fact my best mate (sadly piled in a couple of years back) rose to the fore and responded “Er, me actually Brigadier”, which seeing he was some 11 ranks removed from the great and the good, did wonders for his ego but precious little for the Brigadier’s.

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Hey Tom! My name is Max, I’m a Chaplain in the 101st Airborne right now, BUT I have the Battalion Colors from when my grandfather was in command. I stumbled upon this forum and have been having a blast reading your stories. Do any of these names line up with your time there?

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Wow, what a blast from the past. While I didn’t arrive at the Battalion until very late October of 1972, and thus did not get the chance to meet your grandfather, those names are almost all very familiar to me!!

Major Wharton was the XO when I arrived and CSM Brown was there as well.

Bill Jones was the Commander of Alpha, but I believe 1LT Lenzini had either just PCS’d or left shortly after I arrived, because I recall his name.

Jim Johnson was my BC in Bravo, and 1LT Eichorn was the XO. He PCS’s after about 2 more months. SFC Buracker had left as the 1SG, but SFC Fox had moved up to take over as acting, before we got a new E-8 a few months later.

I think that CPT Holderness had just left Charlie Battery and 1LT Lotterman also left shortly after I arrived.

When I got there, “Red” Taylor and CPT Petersen had switched jobs. (Years later after he retired, I ran into Red Taylor who had taken a job on the staff at VMI.)

The XO in HHB, Terry Johnson actually stayed in that position until July of 1974, at which time I moved from being the AXO in Bravo, to become the Target Acq Plt Leader/HHB XO.

CPT Shaw was still the Service Battery Commander (also by default the “S-4” although technically there was no such position), and Geof Miller was the XO. He went on to become a 2-Star and I’m pretty sure that as an O-6 he was the DivArty Commander of the 101st. CW Bob Woodmansee had moved over to the 708th Maintenance Battalion where he became good friends with a Field Artillery Captain, John Routon, who eventually transferred to the Battalion as HHB Commander when I was the XO. One of the greatest officers I ever met. When John and I went to Graf with the Battalion, we went over to visit Bob who had an air conditioned trailer AND a POV. He was in to dirt car racing and as it turns out, so were the Graf Post MPs. So Bob had some…friends!

The Commo Officer, Tony Curran was a West Pointer and had been on the hockey team, although the website doesn’t have any stats for him. And MSG Cooper was a LEGEND!

Sam Murphey was still the S-1 when I arrived and in June of 1973, moved over to take command of Bravo Battery when I had moved from FO to AXO.

The S-2 Sergeant, Keiser, had gotten promoted to SFC and moved over to the S-3 shop where he still was when I left. He was married to a German national and kept getting his tour extended.

And Bill Stone was still the S-3 for at least another year.

So yeah, I guess you could say that some of these names line up with my time there!!

I have a very good friend who was the AXO in Bravo when I arrived and he used to talk about your grandfather (DAMN that makes ME feel OLD!!) with fond memories. I know he’s gonna LOVE this picture!

Thanks so much for reaching out and sharing. First of the Second was my first troop assignment, and as you can probably tell from this thread, a very special time for me.

Thanks for your committment!!!

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I know this is a very old thread.
The Verlinden molds and more importantly the masters, are less than ten miles from me. I know the gentleman who purchased a large number, if not all of them. I’ve been invited to peruse them at my convenience, but since I’ve taken on a new gig it may be a bit.
If I do find something that strikes my fancy I do have a pressure caster and some good experience with it. The downside is there were few Verlinden resin products back in the day that I waa completely happy with.

And welcome, Max.

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They may not be the best, although I always liked them very much, but the Verlinden set N-198, the radio set was something I thought was very good, particularly since my interest was US vehicles in the 70’s.

I’m sure those radios could easily be done with CAD and 3-D printing, as I know because my son and I did all the radios for my RTT rig that way.

I don’t know how much demand there is for the old RT-524, R-442, and RT-246, but I always liked that Verlinden set.

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Verlinden made nice cobblestone roads.

Some of Verlindens early figures were excellent and some still hold up well today. I still have a bunch.

I too have a small stash but they don’t tie-in especially well as they’re often, to my eye admittedly, nearer 1:32 not 1:35. They really are quite chunky.

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I won’t even look at any of those figures if there are any. Wooden poses, and as mentioned, not always 1/35 scale.

Yes when he changed sculptors or whatever they were very poor, the US paras are a good example. But some early stuff when I think Sid Horton was doing his figures they were nice if on the 1/32nd scale side yes.

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And I’m STILL looking for 1/35 scale US figures in Cold War uniforms, i.e. either summer fatigues, or winter with Field Jackets.

NOT WW II figures with leggings and NOT stripped to the waist Viet Nam figures with cargo pants!!

And NOT half figures for placement inside the turret or drivers compartment of a tank.

The kind of uniform HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of US Soldiers wore in CONUS and in Germany for over 25 years, from about 1955, through about 1980.

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Dream on Tom, dream on!

The only way to get around this is for endless sanding, Milliput modifications (and even equipment sculpting), Hornet Heads and assorted weapon sets. And believe me, it’s a chore.

it’s pretty much the same picture for Brits of the same time period, the Bundeswehr are moderately well served courtesy of Dolp (but they’re metal so that can be a whole new world of pain), NL Troops well served now by Sylly’s, but I haven’t actually gotten around to getting them in the flesh. The Belgians, see second para above.

Now, I’ve limited myself to NATO’s Central Region as it was, but pickings are scant; if you want any in NBC kit, then forget it. And to be honest, I think I spent half my military life in those.

I don’t necessarily want action poses, just those one can use to embellish a model, those sort of hanging around the tank park type.

Sylly’s Mini Models are worth a look at; I note he’s branched out into Danish and Canadian, and there’s a couple of generic poses which might pass muster for US - in fact - he advertises them as such.

Now, where are my sanding sticks and Milliput?

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Valkyrie makes a few US tank crew sets from the 70s-80s but no infantry or other type of troops unfortunately.

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Actually, we wore those uniforms until about 1982 or later. I think they were officially phased out in 1985, but very few people had them by then.
New recruits were issued the BDUs starting in 1981, but for those already in they were phased in over time. If I remember correctly (hey it’s been a long time!) we had to have one set of BDUs by 1 Oct. 81, two sets in 1982 (I forget exactly when), and three sets by 1983. The woodland camo. version of the field jacket wasn’t available until about 1983.
Ken

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Yeah, that’s pretty much the way I remember it as well. But as I said, while it’s NOT combat, the Cold War, especially the US Army Europe, was a LOT of soldiers for a LONG time and it’s galling to me that this period seems to be completely ignored.

I sure would love to add some figures to these kits!

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To be honest Tom, it’s the same regarding the opposition; anyone hoping to populate their tanks and BMPs are probably going to do OK, but for say, infantry, even if stooging around, well, not much there. A couple of truck fillers and that’s about it (although hats off to ICM):

Sanding down WW2 figures, endless mods to uniforms, adding smocks, equipment, and then the inevitable Hornet Heads and small arms - it seems to go on for ever, and nearly sucks the fun out of it all. That said, when I do actually complete a figure and it’s say, half decent, then I am quietly chuffed.

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