Concertina wire question

It`s not about concertina wire but the poles where you could attach concertia wire to make a fence. These polss are U-shaped and have “L”-shaped holes/openings to fix the concertina wire. I am looking for the correct desigination to do further resaerch. Would be cool to such poles as AM/PE stuff. And another question: Which is the best PE razorwire on the market?

In the US Army, we called them pickets.


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Thanks, but is there any specific designation? Googling brings only pickets for picket fences.

Officially, they are called: POST, FENCE, METAL (U-SHAPED PICKET), SIZE 2 (72-INCH), 4 SLOTS
(NSN 5660002701510 / NIIN 002701510).

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Now THAT´s the information I need!

None of the photo-etch stuff is perfect, but I find that the Eduard stuff is pretty close, especially when coiled up properly.
Ken

Thanks, I will look for this.

we used generic engineering stakes most of the time. But have used bamboo poles and actually anything we could lay our hands on. As for a source, somebody does it in photoetch. But who?
Plus don’t be afraid to use the older stuff as well. Each had it’s advantages.
gary

so they finally got smart and made the stakes longer! Ours were roughly four feet long (maybe close to five feet). Usually painted a forest green color. Always got it from the Sea Bees for a bottle of Canadian Club
gary

We just called 'em BDU rippers! :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

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My jeans got cut looking at this thread.

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also a good way to get an infection. Razor wire didn’t seem to rust like regular barb wire, but it still did near the coast line. Flat on the ground; the old style was best. When you string it out, don’t forget the tin cans and trip flares
gary

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Hi Gary,
no such “exotic” builds in mind. I just need a roll or two to put on the engine deck of a Stryker. The wire poles are secured to the front of the truck. The only use of concertina wire over here is to put a protection around empty wirebound boxes on exercises. Empty wirebound boxes must be “dangerous”, if they are so heavily protected. :grin:

we used chain link fencing and chicken wire to keep the RPG’s out. Even then they’d often get a shot thru. Chain link is best of course. The best idea is to place yourself far from tracks and trucks, and you might live thru the night. I avoided them like the plague. Wire is mostly to keep people out from where you don’t want them. Yet in my era, the folks could cut a wire without making a sound. That’s where the tin cans with some nuts and bolts inside them came in handy. Trip flares wired into the mess work well, as it will give you four to eight seconds to aim and shoot while the other guy is blind. Used a lot of staggered claymore mines firing parallel to the wire (never into it). But you never seem close to the clacker when you gotta put your hands on it.

To the best of my knowledge nobody does engineering stakes. Least I’ve never seen them. Be sure to place your stakes out aways from the Stryker. 25 feet is about right. Still I’ve seen the forty feet out. I could go into some serious detail as to how we kept the bad guys out, but on the otherhand the Mod’s would flip out. Use you imagination and think how you would attack that Stryker, then turn around and figure away to keep him back and yet out in the open. Rest comes easy.
gary

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Yeah, stakes for concertina is a really good idea; hadn’t thought of them before but they’re all over any bivouac.

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I had this Sea Bee Master Chief (or whatever they call them) that I traded with all the time. He couldn’t get whiskey, and I could get all I wanted by signing my name on the dotted line. He liked Canadian Club, and one bottle was good for three hundred stakes delivered. We built a mess hall for the cost of three bottles once (concrete, plywood, screen wire, etc). He even loaned us a concrete mixer that ran off a gasoline engine. I would get a hundred sheets of 3/4" marine plywood for a bottle. Whenever I was in Chu Lai, I took him a bottle of CC and often two bottles. I radioed in once asking if we ever got any NVA pistol belts and SKS rifles. We had hundreds and hundreds of the belts and a hundred or so new SKS rifles in a bunker. Top and I went in there and got him a couple dozen belts, a pistol, and two brand new SKS rifles. I gave them to him, and he wanted to give me anything in Chu Lai (well the air conditioner would have been swell). Nobody in Chu Lai as well as that Sea Bee! Been in country for over five years when I met him the first time.
gary

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I wonder if coiled-up C-wire could be reasonably done by 3-D design and printing? Would be enough for to to put on a Stryker or Abrams.

Or a M113…

H.P.

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I like the photo-etch best, but Legend does make some in resin all coiled up and covered with rags or sand bags to keep it from snagging on things,
Ken