I came across this product
and I have found similar listings on ebay, amazon and aliexpress.
Has anyone bought this and can possibly provide some feedback/information?
Here are some more photos:
That white resin and the quality of the print are my main concerns. The company that provides the photoetch is familiar to me, I have purchased some of their sets in the past.
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I have one. It’s worth it. The print quality is very good - well up to modern standards. If your concern is that the white resin is that slightly grainy stuff you used to get on Shapeways prints, don’t worry, it’s not. It’s smooth to the touch - seems to be white resin to me not PLA.
I had the same concerns as you and went for it. I figured that even if one came out in plastic in this scale (it’s the only ship of it’s class) by the time I’d bought all the brass, turned barrels, wooden deck (assuming they were produced by the aftermarket companies) the total cost would be approaching this. So I waited for a discount run on Aliexpress - the eBay prices are not dissimilar - and it arrived from China in less time than expected. I wasn’t disappointed - it’s a lovely kit. The biggest problem is not with the kit - it’s finding the time to build it
I’m a real model shipbuilder btw with no affiliation. Hope that helps.
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Thank you for your answer. If the resin is good then I am more than happy to work with it.
I am building a 3D printed 1/72 submarine at the moment, if the resin print quality of Vanguard is similar then I find the price logical.
Is there any chance you can share photos of the kit? Not the metal-photoetch parts, mainly the superstructure and the gun turrets.
Here you go. I angled the superstructure pic so the light shows the surface relief. I tend to find iPhone photos really show the imperfections but it’s smooth to the touch. The detail isn’t quite as sharp as your resin 3D Sub but perfectly acceptable when you consider what you’re getting.
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I agree and I also use commercial filler primer or Mr Surfacer 500/1000 spray and then sand for this type of casting.
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Ok, I just received the 3d model and at first glance I am impressed. Print quality is very good, some surfacer-primer will make the surface layering dissapear. I have not checked the metal and photoetch parts.
The model comes in two boxes, nicely packaged. Only the deck parts were warped, which is to be expected unless the packaging doubles in size, but I think I can easily straighten them with a warm bath and some gentle pressure against a hard straight surface.
The material is sturdy and hard. The main hull has no warpage whatsoever.
The instructions are color printed A4 pages
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That looks a pretty full and special kit Nikos… Jam packed with detail… Very impressive…
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It really is and the fact that Vanguard was one of my top to do battleships along with Montana and a late war California BB-44 makes it even better.
I did not mention the total cost for this, which was about 250 euros. I got lucky because I got a low charge at customs, only 5 euros because the package was less than 2 kgr of weight and small enough as not to attract attention
Taking into account the recent cost of a 1/350 battleship kit at around 120-130 euros, a deck with masks is about 20-25 euros (the cheap ones, not the pontos, Mk1 decks), that leaves a cost of about 100 euros for all the photoetch and metal parts which is about what a Flyhawk set costs for Alabama or North Carolina. At this price range I think 250 is a fair price.
Accuracy wise, at first glance and after some not so thorough comparisons with the available reference I have (Norman Friedman’s book included) the model looks quite accurate. I am under the impression that the producer extracted the 3D model from World of Warships and modified it. Their other products which include in game what-if designs like the Venezia, the Buffalo and the Hindenburg lead me to this assumption.
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Hi Nikos
well, I’ve been following along this thread with some curiosity, after discovering 3d-Wild’s kits recently.
I think this is a game changer for traditional manufacturers of injection molded plastic kits. The basic economics of an IM kit requires a large overhead upfront for the tooling, which the manufacturer must then recoup. This makes subject selection tricky and many of our “wishlist” items never reach manufacture because of this reason. Add into that the cost of sourcing plans etc and suddenly most business cases fall down.
Enter 3d printing. None of the initial overhead of tooling required, and the cost is very competitive, like you mentioned, even when compared to resin kits. Better than that, they can make to order, and are not left holding stock that hasn’t sold.
Best of all, ships that may never have been found in kit form, now might just get their chance at representation within the scale model world.
This does not however let companies such as 3d-Wild off the hook in terms of quality or accuracy. For example, I was at first, really excited to learn they are producing HMS Illustrious (WW2) but when I saw the screen shots I struggled to identify the ship portrayed as anything but Illustrious - looked more akin to a bath tub, IMHO.
However, your Vanguard kit looks excellent! This is what can happen when the right information is sourced.
I really hope and encourage you to share your build here at MSW and look forward to seeing this kit come together with all the ups and downs it may have.
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