Looking for suggestions for weathering US Fleet subs

I am starting to paint my USS Gato and want some suggestions and tips on weathering a submarine. I am an Armor guy but I think mud spattered around those fan blades in the rear may not be so authentic…

Thanks for your suggestions.

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AK do a range of weathering enamels for naval subjects. Depending where in the subs deployment you want to depict the sub could be very clean or very dirty and rusty. Think salt stains, oil and algae along the water mark line, rust from fittings.

Modern sub after a six month deployment, but gives you an idea, WWII subs obviously didn’t deploy for anywhere near that amount of time.

And more on topic for WWII

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Depending on the scale I’d say preshading along the weld lines and on the decking as well run a darker color in between the the deck plates and then lighten it up on top also staining around all the vents. Rust might be on areas that’s spent a little more time outside the parts of the railings parts of the Periscope stuff like that but I don’t know if that’s going to be a lot you know looking at ones in museums is a lot different than looking at one while it was in action. And believe it or not for ships everything but the mud in armor modeling can be used

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Well, it depends on what you want to represent. A newly commisioned boat has no rust or any kind of fowling. A well maintained boat has some rust and streaks and so on but nothing major. A boat returning from a deployment that lasted many months can have paint chipping, rust streaks and various other weathering effects.

you can do some highlights on the panels and have a clean look,

you can go for more weathering on the black of the hull but it is always difficult and people tend to overdo it most of the times

Same model as above but with a dark grey wash on the grey areas and medium grey on the hull

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Here you can download hi-res views of the Gato in 1943.

https://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/19-N-49000/19-N-49791.html

https://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/19-N-49000/19-N-49790.html

https://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/19-N-49000/19-N-49789.html

H.P.

Sorry, My software will not let me open those links.

What software are you using that can’t handle a standard hyperlink? Are you on a device other than a PC?

Depending on the boat, weathering can vary wildly. I’d recommend checking out www.navsource.net. It’s a very good site and features photos every type of Navy vessel, including all of the Gatos. I used it when detailing my 1/144th Gato.

Hope this helps.

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Here are the pics I was talking about (I’ve converted them to JPEG as TIFF is not allowed…)

H.P.

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It depends on how you want to display the Gato - as a waterline model or as an
“out of the water” model. My 1/72 Gato is on a slipway in Australia (records indicate the exact dates this occurred) and will show the efforts required to remove the barnacles as well as removing and replacing dented hull components damaged while on patrol. Also the application of black anti-fouling paint. The barnacles did not stay a pristie white - often mingling with algae and seaweed to give a nice greenish brown tint to the lowere surfaces. (We know from another topic how much algae loves warm water) I have photos of these operations - possible from navsource.net that Taffy posted. I do have tons of other photos from that site.

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Didn’t like the security of the site for some reason.

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Thank you for your help. Not many photo’s of subs returning from patrol. The Navsource.net was very helpful!

That’s weird because they are https links which are the secure ones for ecommerce and such. Must have been a hiccup.

Buddy of mine has a GOVT issued phone and there’s tons of sites that get flagged by his phone .. especially sites with pics as these days lots of pics have extras in them last time I sent him something he got a tracker warning from a freaking picture..

The technology to hide entire files (many hostile I’m sure) in a single pixel has existed for years.

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I know.. my phone flags stuff all the time.