MACCHI M.C. 202 FOLGORE - Kit Italeri 1/32

Hello everyone.
I closed my thread on the Mosquito ( here ) considering the Macchi MC 202 Folgore as a prime candidate to end up on my workbench. In fact I was wondering: I am an Italian modeler and I do not have any Italian aircraft in my showcases. This is not good. :-1:
According to common opinion it is one of the most beautiful fighters operating during the Second World War and without much to envy to the Allied fighters, at least during the early periods of the war.




Macchi MC.202 at National Air and Space Museum Washington



MC 202 at Vigna di Valle Museum


This is the Italeri kit


So the decision is made! This will be my next commitment in the coming months.
It promises to be a beautiful kit to build, it includes a Cartograf decal sheet, with 8 versions to choose from, PE parts, 3D cockpit decals and smoke ring decals.
The Italeri model was born under the aegis and approval of the Italian Air Force and this, except for the necessary checks during construction, should constitute a guarantee of the fidelity of the model itself.
I am waiting for the MRP color range entirely dedicated to the Italian Air Force in WW2, to begin this new stage of my modeling journey.
I hope that this construction can arouse your interest and your kind (as always) attention.
Dan

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Speaking of Italian modeling subjects, after reading “Luck was lacking, but Valor was not” there were many photos of Italian soft skin vehicles, but I have found little in the way 1/35th scale models. Do you have any sources by manufacturers or retailers who might have such models? I am in the states, and so I don’t have many good sources.

IBG makes some Italian vehicles.

Military vehicles are not my main field of interest, but as far as I know, yes, I confirm what brekinapez wrote, IBG produces some. Here in Italy they are available but also on a famous Polish site where I usually stock up.
Not wanting to go off topic in this thread about airplanes, if you need more information write me privately

Good morning everyone.
Here I am back after a period of mandatory and urgent maintenance on my personal biological engine. Hoping that all those mechanics in white coats and with stethoscopes around their necks have done a good job, let’s try to think about this Macchi MC 202 again.
So this sad pile of bones claims to want to become an airplane engine, the Daimler DB601.
Let’s see if the frog turns into Prince Charming.




My first impression, starting to put the pieces together, is that we are light years away from the Tamiya quality that I have just touched with my hand making their Mosquito. The pieces do not fit together as they should, some gaps remain open and the thought that makes its way into my head is that Italeri still has a long way to go to improve. And we are talking about a kit that was launched as the spearhead of their production. Is this kit overpriced?? Yes, I am starting to think so.
Anyway, now it is on my workbench and we will see what will happen.
Some shots during the assembly of the engine that the instructions propose, a bit unexpectedly, as the first step of the build:


Note the white tubes connected to the green tubes. The ones in the box were unsuitable: excessive diameter and rigid material (similar to an electric wire). I replaced them with pieces of the prescribed length of scooby doo, softer and more manageable. Its greater shine and “toy” appearance I solved with a coat of opaque acrylic white.


And finally the collector of the white pipes, the gluing of the black pipes (all these pipes will naturally connect to the fuselage and the wing root once the engine is attached to the fuselage itself). An oil wash and a drybrushing for the highlight of the bolts and reliefs completed the whole thing.
In the end, net of the problems mentioned above, it seems to me that an acceptable job came out, with a good representation of the real object. The exhaust pipes are missing, but the instructions propose their assembly much later, with the engine already in its final location.





Stay tuned
Dan

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Hi everyone, I hope you had a peaceful Easter holiday. Here in Italy, as everyone knows, the death of the Pope has dispensed much sadness and consternation.

We stopped in the previous post with the reproduction of the engine, so here it is mounted on the lower part of the wings.






The next step was the assembly of the main landing gear. The legs are quite simple in reality…

…and the reproduction of the kit is no exception.





There are some errors but in my opinion the least realistic aspect is the excessive flattening of the tires.

I will continue shortly with the latest developments of my WIP on the Macchi MC 202 but first, if you allow me, I would like to express some personal considerations.
My feelings about this kit are really very mixed: on the one hand I can’t help but appreciate Italeri’s effort in presenting a kit worthy of the asking price; on the other hand I am very irritated by the numerous inaccuracies and omissions. I therefore ask myself: is it possible that an Italian brand that intends to launch a kit of an Italian aircraft (moreover the best Italian fighter of the Second World War and, in absolute terms, one of the most iconic of the entire Italian aeronautical production), under the direct aegis of the Italian Air Force, with the presence of a specimen (albeit a bit Frankensteinian :grin:) preserved in an Italian museum, with the widest possibility of access to the documentary archives of the manufacturer (Macchi Castoldi), can commit this series of inaccuracies in its kit? Is it possible that the engineering of the kit is still so rough? Kit elements fixed to the sprue in positions that make it difficult to remove residues, pieces to be assembled together in a relative position that is not clear in the instructions (often there is no pin, no notch, no latch in the plastic that can help), a huge amount of sink marks, often in positions that are very difficult to reach… Look at this main landing gear bay, this is how it looked right out of the box… ejector marks, mysterious scratches…(not to mention the lack of detail).

I could go on but, in order not to be seen as a boring and pretentious modeler who is never satisfied, I really invite you to read this article by Maurizio di Terlizzi. This gentleman (in addition to being a helicopter instructor for the Italian armed forces) is considered the greatest expert on the Air Force and has written several books, many of which on World War II aircraft. I know that he has collaborated, as a consultant, with other brands to launch kits that reproduce Italian-made aircraft. Why not Italeri?
Here is the link to the article.
A Modeller’s Guide to Italeri’s 1/32 scale Macchi C.202 by Maurizio Di Terlizzi

But let’s move on! It’s cockpit time!
The cockpit documentation found online is quite sparse (except for the instrument panel). From what little I found it seems that the reproduction of the side walls is a bit fanciful, but so be it, I proceeded with what I had.
The instrument panel. The 3D dacals supplied with the kit are quite faithful even if in my opinion a little “toy-like”


Here are some shots, following the assembly order, starting from the oxygen tanks. (Always remember that the magnification of the photos is very high, so the painted parts could appear “orange peel”, in reality everything appears less grainy and natural…





The various components of the cockpit painted, with a coat of glossy transparent varnish, ready for a light oil wash


After the oil wash, a coat of matt transparent and the weathering





Left side wall on


Right side wall

And finally, everything ready to be closed inside the fuselage..



Ok, that’s it for now. Until next time!
Dan

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Same here, though I’m german. The italian camouflage of WW2 is very challenging with it’s smoke rings and others. That’s one reason why my 1/48 Hasegawa Folgores and Veltros are still sitting in the stash after all the years. :grin:
Will follow your build with interest!

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Hi Torsten.
…To say it is challenging is really an understatement! :grin:
Especially in 1/48 scale. The gentleman I mentioned, Maurizio Di Terlizzi, is also an excellent modeler, I know for a fact that he can recreate the smoke rings with a freehand airbrush. I have not yet decided whether to try this, I am very fearful too. I will paint the insignia and the identification letters instead of using decals, but on the smoke rings the doubts are huge..
This kit actually provides the decals for each individual smoke ring, but I fear that the whole thing seems a bit heavy. I would have much preferred if the masks were supplied by painting the green first and then the hazelnut on top. I do not know, I will decide when the time comes.
Dan

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Since you are German, if we are talking about difficult to reproduce camouflage, shall we discuss some German aircraft from WWII? :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Oh, the mottling on Bf 109 or Fw 190 is a lot easier for me, as I also take the freedom of the artist for me. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: So no mottling is really like on the original aircraft but close and good enough for me. I don’t see myself as a 1st Class modeller …

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Me too.

Yes, true, BUT…I was thinking of something similar to this… :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Oh yes, Mäander is another master challenge … Didn’t think of that.

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Hi guys,
I’m back with an update: the build has reached the stage before the final decals and stencils. When I say decals I also mean the application of the smoke rings provided in the kit. Yes, this is my final choice regarding the smoke rings. I also bought a set of masks from DN Models, but in the end I decided not to use them, for various reasons.
First, their shape differs in many cases from those reproduced by Italeri and visible in the color tables attached to the instruction sheet. Secondly, I should have reversed the order of the upper camouflage colors, covering first with dark green, applying the masks and going over everything with hazelnut. The light color (hazelnut) applied on a very dark color (green) would have made the final result too dark in my opinion. Third reason, perhaps the most important, the masks would have produced a sharp and unrealistic edge, while in reality the smoke rings had a soft edge and the decals are closer to this criterion. There was a third way, actually: freehand reproduction with the airbrush. Honestly I did not feel like it, too long a job and without the possibility of errors to not ruin everything. I promise myself to do some tests if I have to tackle the MC 205 in the future.
Anyway, I will talk about this final phase in my next post, now let’s pick up where we left off the previous time.
The cockpit was positioned between the two half-fuselages that closed with an acceptable precision. The use of filler and, mainly of CA glue, in the joints was limited and the little sanding, where necessary, was facilitated by the substantial lack of details to preserve in the areas concerned.



The next step was to assemble the two upper shells of the wings and here the pain begins…


As you can see the gap with the wing roots is very large but not only that. The planes of the wing root and the wing are staggered, in addition to the gap so we have a step.
You know, I already said, I never really fell in love with this kit, too many inaccuracies and approximations, so I decided to experiment. I wanted to try a new method (for me) to fill this gap without having to intervene with sandpaper in a heavy way. I filled the cracks with transparent UV-curing resin, trying as much as possible to also connect the staggering of the planes. The excess can be easily removed before polymerizing with a finger or a rubber spatula.
Watch what happens after polymerization and turning on the UV torch again..

Given the starting situation and the total inexperience with this method, I would say that we can be moderately satisfied.


Even in real life the demarcation was clear and well visible.



(MC 205 but same structure)

Now let’s move on to the cover of the machine gun compartment. What can I say? Even worse…
The cowling is positioned in a space obtained during the molding of the two half-holes that, joining together, create the housing for the cowling itself. The resulting space is both too long and too wide compared to the dimensions of the cowling.



I thought it would be better to align it with the cockpit and fill the space at the front by inserting a heated casting wire and stretched until it reached an adequate thickness.

On the sides, the same procedure with much thinner wires. Unfortunately, there is a step between the cowling and the fuselage that I thought of leaving as it is, under penalty of destroying a surface detail that is difficult to re-engrave and a thinning of the fuselage that is too evident.

Just in front is the first part of the engine cowling, here fortunately the fit is acceptable. Next is the final part of the engine cowling (in 3 separate pieces: 2 sides plus part above) to complete the front fuselage. Here unfortunately the work of filling the gaps and reducing the steps was impressive due to the presence of the engine group inside which did not facilitate the perfect alignment of the 3 hoods. The result, here too, does not give me any particular satisfaction and appears barely acceptable, but only because the starting situation was extremely critical.





To end up this post some shots of the underside, landing carriages and so.






That’s all for now.
Dan

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Good morning everyone.
We have reached the end. My little, elegant boy is now ready for inspection! I do not want to repeat myself about the fit problems of this kit or the inaccuracies. Shapes and proportions are good, as Maurizio Terlizzi stated, and that is enough for this model to look good in my display case. On the other hand, replacing the control surfaces and other incorrect details would have almost doubled the price of the kit. So, I am fully aware of all these inaccuracies and… let’s move on.
Just a few words about the decals and, in particular, the smoke rings. The decals are generally good, even if a little thick. The smoke rings represent reality well, but, as we know, every rose has its thorns. They tend to bend on themselves when they slide off the backing paper and also when trying to place them on the model. (Rest assured, everything was done in the best possible way, using the right liquids for the purpose). I can’t tell you how many hours it took to smooth them out and how many times I was tempted to throw everything in the trash!! :grin:
Anyway, this is the end result of my effort. Given all the problems encountered (already described in my previous posts), it seems to me that the boy presents himself in an acceptable manner.
I only remember that the insignia above and below the wings (the fasces, so to speak), as well as the identification numbers inside the white band on the fuselage, are painted by me with the help of masks, everything else you see belongs to the kit’s decal sheet.
Over to you!
Underside:


Upperside:

Walk around:

















Dan

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Dan, I think you made a terrific job with that kit.
Superb work on solving many of the issues you encountered.

The work on the engine, cockpit and landing gear was very,very good.
Remarkable patience you add to get that camo scheme done.

Congratulations on another award winning Build.
you should be proud.

I wanted to try that Italeri kit ever since it came out, I had that kit in the Shopping Cart many many times, but checking the issues you had, I think for that price (84 to 92 Eur ) depending on where you get it (plus Shipping) Italeri should have done a better job. But still it’s quite an impressive kit.
I will also check Maurizio’s review.

To be honest I don’t think I’ll get one of those kits.

I understand you. It’s a kit that sometimes makes you angry. I won’t repeat all the reasons I’ve already listed in my posts. But certainly for this price (in Italy around 100 euros) Italeri - an italian brand - could and should have done more and better!
But, on the other hand, it’s the only kit in my favorite 1/32 scale available in our country. It’s Italian, it competed on equal terms (at the beginning of the war) with the English fighters and…let me tell you: it’s damn beautiful!!
Dan

And thank you so much for your kind appreciations!

Bravissimo, a great model of a great plane.
Your patience and dexterity have produced a very faithful reproduction.
Congratulations

Thanks a lot Manuel (or should I say Grazie Manuel?)
:italy:?

Supurbly built and supurbly photographed