No More GI Joe

It needs seat belts, a NHRA certified roll cage and NASCAR window webbing mesh over all access openings…

Cheers,

M

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With those modifications, I think it should also be available as an amusement park ride.

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GM Defense, the same manufacturer of the Infantry Squad Vehicle (ISV), also makes the Light Utility Vehicle (LUV) that has a cabin, HVAC, glass, windshield, doors, etc. to remedy the deficiencies of the open and unarmored ISV. The LUV can be armed with a RWS and armored depending on customer preferences. It won’t seat nine Soldiers or Marines, just 4-5 troops, but it’s a full pickup when the ISV is an open buggy of sorts. It can seat more troops with the extended six-door cab.

Photo from Military.com

Check out this person’s Gallery with photos of LUV, MRZR, M2A3 Bradley, M-SHORAD Stryker, and ISV if you scroll right.

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Tacomas suited us just fine in '02.
Can’t find the original without the quote at the moment. It’s late. Lifted it off an old thread.

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USSOCOM often armors their pickups and SUVs to resemble commercial civilian vehicles.

The GM Defense LUV, being beefier, can come with a .50cal CROWS II-Javelin mounting a C-UAS jammer and two loitering munitions in the cargo bed. Behind the CROWS-Javelin is a small UAV with docking ring. That is quite heavy well-balanced offensive and defensive armament with stand-off range. There’s no hiding the fact that the LUV is armed and armored like a USSOCOM pickup or SUV that is supposed to blend into the local surroundings.

Toyota Tacomas can have the loitering munitions in the cargo bed, but I doubt that they can mount the CROWS-Javelin over the cab.

I haven’t heard or read any US Defense service interested in the GM Defense LUV just yet. GM Defense markets their Light Utility Vehicle as a HMMWV replacement, able to seat the same amount of troops and offer better more modern capabilities because it’s a pickup.

Photo from Sandboxx News.

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Video : https://www.forscom.army.mil/Videos/videoid/950203/

H.P.

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This is nothing more then a modified Chevy Colorado with a diesel engine in it

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I hate modern vehicles - whether armoured (ostensibly|) or not; they just end up looking like armoured vans - I admit that this one does not - but where is the angularity and almost purpose of such amroured plate in, say, vehicles like the Ferret?

I mean:

Panther - armoured van.

Dingo - armoured van

Typhoon - armoured van

Ferret - looks the business!

I won’t dabble in tracked vehicles but to my (clearly distorted) mind, the CVR(T) series looked interesting and right; ditto the Bundeswehr use of the Hotchkiss:

And this Dutch prototype which never came to fruition:

Perhaps it’s just me!

PS: I know I’m confusing the issue here in that the Humvee replacement is not necessarily a dedicated recce vehicle just my Sunday morning musings!

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Seriously? Unless it can Handle IEDs It’s useless

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Didn’t Canada buy these?

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Not necessarily. In our AO EIDs were going off all the time. Our gun trucks never got hit. A few close calls maybe. The insurgents had certain TTPs. So did we. Unpredictability - changing routes, driving on the “wrong” side of the road. Not using the road at all. Knowing what to watch for - trash piled next to the road, a stack of rocks (if I can find my photo I’ll post it) different colored concrete, a hose in the road, a shi+bird standing in the middle of nowhere talking on a cell phone. As the gunner it was my primary responsibility to watch for threats, since I had the best view and the biggest gun.
And of course knowing the enemy’s TTPs. In certain areas they liked to use HME, a low yield explosive made from goat urine. Because it was “slower” it would not fracture a gun truck, but it was excellent at flipping vehicles over into things like irrigation canals, of which there were many. And then there was our motto - Speed is security.

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Yes, that is the six-door Light Utility Vehicle version, which may seat nine Soldiers perhaps. It was called the GM Defense “Next-Generation Tactical Truck,” but they changed the name because there are two versions of “Next-Generation”…one that looks like an ordinary pickup (LUV) and one that looks futuristic and Sci-Fi (see below).

As you can see, it remedies a lot of the deficiencies of the open and unarmored Infantry Squad Vehicle although I don’t know if the six-door LUV can be armored as the doors and windows are plastic tarps.

And then GM Defense also makes this…the “Next-Generation Light Tactical Wheeled Vehicle” prototype. There is definitely no hiding that this is a military vehicle, and it is fully enclosed and looks like it sports armor and definitely RWS armament. Reporters haven’t really covered the “Light Tactical Wheeled Vehicle” and I haven’t read any interest in it. (That is the Infantry Squad Vehicle right next to it).

Photo from Defense News.

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Many modern armored 4x4 vehicles resemble armored bank trucks because they need to have the internal passenger volume to transport a large number of S.W.A.T. personnel. The Lenco Bearcat G3 can carry 8 to 15 tactical police.

The Lenco Bearcat G3 can stand repeated hits by .50cal bullets, and the sales video showed the MIL-SPEC steel armor plate that sustained it, complete with zero-angle of deflection. None of the bullets penetrated.

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No, I get all that Peter; my comment was slightly tongue in cheek. To me, they just look dull!

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Got it. :grinning_face: @BootsDMS

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I haven’t stumbled across the stacked rocks used to possibly calculate our speed, but I did find this one:

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Looks like an OP in the distance. Is the distance between the tractor and the EFP about 100 meters? RPG in culvert?

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A whole bunch of heebie jeebie signs, it also looks too perfect. Was this set-up for TTP run throughs?

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Stealth version?

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Real world. I know - it looks textbook. There’s even cover and concealment right next to the X for a follow on assault after the initial ambush. I’ve got more. I would take a photo, send the grid to higher and we’d move on,

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