Please help out of my depth

Hey All,
My two stepdons are into Wargaming and the eldest one was showing of with his birthday present and say his new tank would kill all his younger brother Space Marine suit mech things.

So my question is what is the abosulte best / most dangrous Space Marine tank that I got get his brother for his up coming birthday, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Mike

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I do not play Warhammer but understand the basic mechanics, asked the computer for a top pick, and then searched YouTube.

This video ranks all Space Marine units for usefulness in 2026: Every Space Marine Vehicle Unit Ranked - Best Tanks and Dreadnoughts in the Codex in 2026?

The nice thing about this video is that it ranks all the units, so you can see a bunch of the top hitters. The maker raked the Vindicator as the best all around unit. It is 185 points.

When I asked the computer, it came up with the Repulsor Executioner. This unit costs 220 points and ranks in 5th place in the linked video.

So, in Warhammer, each player is given a number of points with which to buy military units. Once everything is purchased, the players duke it out. This is a very standard setup system for war games. The higher the cost of a unit, the more powerful it is. However, players often find that lower cost units offer more utility than higher cost ones.

This is no doubt why the person who made the video above ranked the Vindicator (185 points) above the Repulsor Executioner (220 points). In the video above, at 6th place. there is an even more powerful unit, the Land Raider Redeemer (270 points).

If you want “Best” based on points, it looks like Land Raider Redeemer is your winner. If you want “Best” based on a compromise between cost and firepower, Repulsor Executioner may be the best pick. If you want “Best” based on point cost efficiency, Vindicator may be your choice.

Warning. If you ask 10 players of a war game what the “Best” unit is, you will often get 10 different answers. As a former player of many war games, the only way to really know “Best” is to play them all and work out the best tactics versus people in the local group of available players. Sometimes, the “Best” option is driven by factors other than point cost. For example, other players may not understand the rules governing a specific unit and therefore be very vulnerable to it.

Oh. One final metric of “Best” is looks. Do not dismiss this form of “Best”. I had a lot of friends who made all sorts of compromises to fit cool looking “Best” units into their formations.

Edit: Whoa! I watched that whole video and it turns out there are two even more expensive units, the Thunderhawk at 840 points (a flyer) and the Astraeus at 525 points (a super tank). The video maker ranked them very low for point efficiency. The Astraeus is the biggest tank in the video but the video maker said it may be too big for most maps. A map is the terrain units are deployed on for play. Imagine a huge diorama with lots of blown up buildings, rocks, and junk scattered about. That is a map.

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Be warned, GW are masters at getting every ounce of treasure out of customers. As a wargamer I’m always sticker-shocked by the GW pricing. They do make very nice kits though.

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Thank you so much for all that information and replying!! At least I now have a little idea what the boys are talking about. :joy::rofl::rofl:

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LOL I have a bad habit of “needing” aftermarket for most of my plastic kits, so I am guessing $$ wise it will even out :joy::rofl::rofl:.

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A friend has 3 of the titans, 28mm (1/56ish scale) and they run about $700/each.

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Ok thats rich for a 28mm model :joy::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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After reading Striker’s comments I did some more investigation. There are a bunch of Titan machines. The largest is something like 4,000 points and stands two feet tall. They are intended for something called an Apocalypse match, basically a game with a very high point pool for each player. That leads me to believe this rabbit hole is far deeper than indicated by my first response.

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Yes long ago they were relatively cheap and great and my son is/was really into WH but as they changed into a money grabbing enterprise he stopped playing and collecting apart from some of the special larger figures. I made a few myself over time and still like their paints. But they are in no way now a customer oriented business like they used to be

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Yes, the scale may be 28mm, but each item has its own size. A Titan is kinda like the WH equivalent of Godzilla! Many years ago my son played WH 40K and wanted the then-new Baneblade tank, which was a very large & powerful tank meant for Apocalypse games used by the Imperial Guard troops. As he played Space Marines we just “attached” it to his army and replaced the crew in the hatches with Space Marine figs…

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