I know it’s been talked about before, but what were the trucks used in First Blood? Wayne
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H.P.
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Nothing Is Over…Nothing!
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My SFQC class all saw the movie on Friday of the week it opened, during Zero Week. We all thought we would be like Rambo,. Half the theater erupted when the deputy said, “Those Green Berets - they’re real badasses.” Truth be told, I’ve driven a Russian tank, but never flew a gunship…
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When I was in the second phase of the Q course, Weapons, I went to see “The Wild Geese” and rows in front of me are most of my instructors who are calling out the identity of every weapon visible. Crazy.
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I irritate the youngsters at the bar by doing that when there’s a movie on the tv ! We had a couple of these at our training site when I did my operating engineer apprenticeship.They were gotten thru some govt program. We had a bunch of old cable dozers/ scrapers , cranes and graders. Wayne
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Yeah, I can’t watch war movies with my wife. I complain too much about the Patton tanks (on both sides!) in Patton and so forth. I’m not an expert but I know a bit. As Calvin says; I’m not stupid, I just know a lot of thoroughly useless things.
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I can overlook things like A-6’s used for Zeros in Tora, Tora, Tora, but I do savage a movie or a series when it comes to weapon handling. Homeland is a good example - I hate to see the Starsky and Hutch cup and saucer grip.
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A funny thing there is that a lot of shows and movies set in the past get that wrong because they’ve been taught weapon handling today.
Look at real photos from the Second World War, for example: there are a good number of photos of soldiers holding weapons with their fingers on the triggers, when they have nothing they would likely be needing to shoot at there and then. Or in movies and TV shows, people shouldering rifles all the time, when IRL rifles without pistol grips were usually held low instead.
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Even as late as RVN, in mid 60’s, we were not taught the “High Carry”, with our M-16’s. It was a concept that was kicked around, I remember talking about it with an SAS guy (on TDY with my unit) in 68 or 69, so it was not unknown, but not taught. Don’t know when it changed. I had to laugh when I saw a show on the Civil war and the troops were shown in High Carry mode with their .58 Springfields.
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I a not military but many years ago, when I took a handgun safety class, one of the instructors made fun of the, “Full Sabrina”, referring to how Sabrina from Charlie’s Angels held her gun. It is one of those memorable expressions that really teaches the point.
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Probably sometime after the military, as an institution, figured out that pistol grips make weapons harder to carry low but easier to hold at the shoulder, coupled to (likely independent of that) research into reducing soldiers’ reaction time to threats.
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Could be, as late as 1969 many US Army units in Europe and CONUS were still armed with M-14’s so that would impact training doctrine. Even in RVN in 1970, I recall the bunker guards at the Hospital at Cam Ranh and the 90th Repl at Long Binh carrying M-14’s.
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Reflecting back to my basic training during the final draftees that I went thru with, some were lucky if they didn’t drop their weapons! We had the guy who pointed his rifle at the drill sargeant after he kicked his helmet for shooting too fast. Imagine my surprise 6 months later when I ran into him at An Son, he was a door gunner on a huey! Wayne
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Yeah, I have called that the “Charlie’s Angels stance” for many years.
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You also gotta do the “FREEEEZE!!!” and the side to side coif shake.
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“I am the police and I say, ‘Don’t move.’”
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You were four years ahead of me. Was Bob Howard there? I can lay legitimate claim to being in “the Last Hard Class.” He was the Commandant when I went.
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