Hi I am currently building the MENG 1/35 kit as a US version but the kit does not come with any decals.
can one of our friends from over the water give me some indication of what markings it would had.serial/unit markings? I am doing it as used in the gulf.
If you have a inkjet printer and clear model decal paper too easy to make your own. Just one thing. Use Tankograd etc books to find vehicles you may or might be made in a future build. Put them in word and print all at one time to keep from wasting decal sheets. I always wanted decals or bumper #’s and did not think I could do it. But I have too easy. Now if someone will just make 70’s - 2000’s US figures in 3d.
As Gino said, Marines don’t like advertising what unit equipment it’s belong to. Looks like the only markings are a vehicle name in the top center “Golda” (maybe).
Here is another one without a vehicle name.
Gino has posted some more on the old site with no markings.
I’ve been looking at some pics of these things and markings are hard to see on any of them regardless of service they’re under. Most don’t seem to have any at all.
The Wiki caption may be a bit misleading with respect to the vehicle’s markings. Although the driver was probably a 101st troop, D9R dozers are not likely to be organic to the 101st. More likely, the D9R was organic to a combat heavy engineer battalion in support of the 101st, say 92nd Engineers or similar.
If so, the left marking could be “[parent designation such as 20E for 20th Engineer Brigade] space 92E” and right marking could be something like “HSC space [2- or 3-digit unit-designated vehicle ID].
“HSC” is short for “Headquarters and Services Company” and has equipment that is somewhat different than what a line company will have. The battalion will assign a vehicle ID such as “HSC 12” or “HSC 211”, something like that, to the dozer and that’s how the right marking would likely read. “12” would indicate 1st platoon (line company) or 1st section (headquarters company), second vehicle.
If the hull is marked, between the left unit marking and the right unit-designated vehicle ID will be a portion of the vehicle’s serial number and perhaps a black national star. That serial number remains with the vehicle no matter which unit the vehicle gets assigned to. Unit markings change.
Heavy earthmover vehicle IDs can be pretty wonky (nonstandard). Their location gets even wonkier when armored cabs are installed on the vehicle.
If the dozers are from the 92nd, there will be a black diamond painted on the side of the vehicle or operator’s door.
Yes, quite right, 20E is organic to 18ABN Corps. The US Army has at least four active duty combat heavy engineer battalions: the 19th, 27th, 46th, and 92nd, all of which are part of the 20th Engineer Brigade. Combat heavy battalions have the heaviest equipment: dozers, graders, scrapers, excavators, etc.
In theater, combat heavy engineer battalions like the 92nd, which are typically corps organic assets, are put under operational control or in direct support of corps subordinate divisions like the 101st, 82nd, 10th Mountain and 3ID.
In other words, it is normal for a combat heavy engineer battalion, organic to 20 Engineer Brigade, 18th ABN Corps, to be placed in direct support of a unit like the 101st in theater. The 101st’s own air assault engineer units would have much lighter equipment than a D9R or D9T. The very heavy D9R and D9T can be found in combat heavy engineer battalions. So to give the lighter forces heavy equipment support, combat heavy engineer battalions are placed OPCON (operational control) or in direct support to the lighter divisions such as the 10th Mountain, 82nd and 101st.
While in theater, it is also normal for the 101st’s own light engineer troops to get operator time on the much heavier equipment of the supporting combat heavy battalion. The 101st troops get valuable experience and the combat heavy gets access to more troop labor. It can be a win-win for both the 101st troops and the combat heavy.
A combat heavy engineer battalion is about a $30 million unit.
One interesting tip, the D9 is a commercial, off the shelf piece of equipment. So when repair parts come, if they are painted at all, they arrive painted Caterpillar yellow. The unit may, or may not, repaint them sand or green. It is not uncommon to see a D9 in the field with yellow parts on it.
When the sand or green paint is scratched away, you can see the original factory yellow under it.
The D9’s in Iraq were actually ones that Israel shipped over to US troops. So I know of at least two in IDF colors with our markings blacked out and the addition of hydraulic probes In the rear on both sides of the ripper and a couple high powered projectors added to the front cylinders.
Ironic, I served in 92nd in Nam and 46th when I came back stateside. My patches were Engineer Command/ Vietnam and Engineer Command/ Europe, because they were a reforger unit. Sorry to hijack your thread. Wayne
While I did say the unit listed from wiki as that was were I pulled the image, I did find later the NARA image that had the same information. So while it was a US Army reporter that posted the information doesn’t mean they know 100% either.