Hi guys,
I wonder if the Vismod version of the M-109 ever was painted in some kind of camouflage.
I seen the M-551 version of the Shilka in camouflage, but could not find any pictures of the M-109.
Anyone any suggestions ?
TIA.
Gé
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Hi Frenchy,
Hi, I have seen those pictures, but i was wondering if anyone did see one in camouflage.
Gé
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Since Soviet vehicles at that time were plain green, why but a camo on it?
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Speaking of Vismods, does anyone have photos of an M113A3 “disguised” as 2S6 Tunguska?
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H.P.
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Thanks for all the input.
Just what i thought, no camo !
Gé
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One more last question: would there be Army unit markings on the vehicle.
Not the ones from 11 Acr, but from 177th armored brigade.
Gé
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For the vehicles specifically called out; the M109/ZSU and the M113/2S6 no. They were not used by 177 AR. Most of their vehicles were M551 Sheridan based. Some examples of their markings:
Paint and markings varied a lot over the years, but in many photos unit markings are missing, covered in dust, or difficult to make out.
Ken
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Hi Ken,
If the m109/zsu was not used by 177ar, then which unit did use the vehicles as seen in the first 3 pictures.
Gé
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I have no idea. The photos are from the 1970s and I cannot make out the unit patches. The terrain is far too green and tree covered to be Ft Irwin.
Ken
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Here’s the caption for the first picture from the US National Archives
“A defense weapons system with gun dish fire control radar and quad 40 mm anti-aircraft guns mounted on an M109 chassis, is used to simulate a Soviet ZSU-23-4 during the Joint Attack Weapons System exercise, novembre 20, 1977
The original finding aid described this photograph as: Base: Fort Ord State: California (CA) Country: United States Of America (USA) Scene Camera Operator: Unknown Release Status: Released to Public.”
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I know the big argument will always be monetary budgets and restraints, but it looks like the US OPFOR vehicles have a look more thought and design put into them than the UK versions … Are the last set of images from Ken @tankerken the most modern OPFOR wagons in play ?
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Newcomers…
Members of WestEfx Military Services work to install a T-72 VISMOD kit on an Idaho Army National Guard M1097 Humvee.
An Army Humvee-type vehicle being used to emulate a Russian GAZ Tigr. (Credit: 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment)
An Army FMTV-series 6x6 truck meant to emulate a French CAESAR self-propelled howitzer
H.P.
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I think the jury is out on that one … If you are trying to make it look like a 72 … it needs tracks 
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Cheers H.P … that brought a smile … That really does look hideous beyond words …
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Here’s their completed “T-72”
H.P.
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Way better than aiming at stacks of tires. I cannot recall what was the difference between stack A being a tank and stack B being a AFV/BMP. Might have been the quality, color, geometry symbol on a panel near by. Had the same issue on the range as well.
Stack of tires bad, me shoot tires. 
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