These are what we are using currently. There a few variations but these are the norm.
L85A3. A3s for ease of recognistion have a redesigned front hand guard and a full length picatinny rail. It also has the LDS fitted with a CQB Battle Sight fitted. The LDS can be seen with or without the CQBBS.
L85A2 (TES) level & LDS + CQBBS
L85A2 with SUSAT
L85A2 with old hand guard & SUSAT.
L85A2 & Iron sights.
And the current L22A1 Carbine- Veh crew weapon system.
youcan also have the L85 fitted with a UGL if anyone was interested. Just for your info really mate ok
Hi James,
ref the images from the top.
1 & 2 yes, but not very often with the Iron sights and picatinny hand guard - but they are about.
3 & 4 no - not sure what this one is meant to represent ? maybe an early L22 carbine but it would have a down grip fitted. The one I showed above is the current and only carbine in service. As I said before, this is usually for armoured veh crews and some air crew (Lynx, Chinook and Merlin)
5 & 6 Yes, this is basically an L85A2 with an original hand guard and SUSAT. this was the normal set up with an optic sight up to probably about 2010 -12 when picatinny rails started to be introduced.
If you are going to do any, then images 5 & 6 are good as they are and you could also do image 1 & 2 but I would put a SUSAT on it and remove the iron sights ( the handle part and the foresight). If you need any close up images of an A2 fitted with SUSAT and a picatinny hand guard just let me know ok.
Thank you, John for the info.
I have heavily modified my CAD for L85A2 to look like one with SUSAT. What do you think?
I’ve even added a Union Jack to look like the one in the reference photo.
Hi James.
Ok, from the top pic down.
Length from rear of mag housing to rear of rifle is to long.
Exposed barrel is a bit to long and to thin.
Image 2.
Not sure on lengths as its at an angle but exposed barrel looks way to long and the gas plug housing is just a block, there is no rounded part sitting at the top.
Image 3
Dimensions don’t look to bad on that, but barrel is again way to long, but looks better for circumference size.
Image 4 ref photo.
Image 5
That’s the ACOG sight and now phased out by the LDS and CQB battle sight.
Image 6 & 7
L119A1 & 2 is now the main rifle of UK SF. They may well still use ACOG sights as they pretty much get and use what they want and what they prefer, their weapons will be custom fitted out to them.
Image 8 carbine.
Again, length from rear of mag housing to rear of rifle is to long. To much exposed barrel, probably only has 3 inches exposed. Front down grip is a bit to far away from the trigger guard.
Last 4 images.
Looks like an A2 with a torch attachment but it’s lacking clear definition and detail all over
looks like an A3 with a UGL but again lacks definition and detail all over
Looks like an old LSW (basically an L85 with a longer barrel and bipod) now phased out and not used.
looks like an A2 with a BFA fitted but same as above for definition and detail.
When I’m back in work tomorrow I can get some precise measurements of certain areas of my A2 if that helps ? Let me know. Happy to help
Hi John,
Thanks for the feedback. Sure, if you can provide those dimensions, that would be good - only if it’s not too much of inconvenience for you. Those CAD drawings are all very simplified for the ease of 3D printing and not so much for accuracy.
I’ll update the first L85A2 above a bit but it’s going to be purely more CAD exercise since no one has ordered a 3D print nor do I foresee anyone ordering it. The gas plug housing (not sure what it is but) will be left as is b/c at 1/35 to avoid thin parts triggering a print fail. From what I see Gecko models already offer a good set of British weapons.
Calling this CAD for L85A2 done. Spent unnecessarily too much time on it. I based the dimensions on some reference photos and corrected the sizing issues accordingly.
James, ref the finalised CAD you did above. Those changes now make it look spot on, looks great. I get what you mean about orders for it. I think its purely location as if you were this side of the pond, I could see you getting orders easily. One of the things that would sway it for me is, I could get 5 or 10 L85A2s from you and use them, opposed to getting say the Gecko weapons pack and end up only ever using a quarter of the weapons supplied, the rest staying on the sprue for ever…
Great work
Thank you, John for your kind words and feedback. No worries about not buying from me. The shipping cost is prohibitive (around $18-19 for the 1st class) from the US. This was a good practice run. I plan to CAD some more British weapons later and improve my printing skills also. My 3D printing skills need a little more refinement for these little prints. I want to at least print out an L119A2 in the near future.
Thank you very much, John for the photos and dimensions. Luckily my CAD checks out all of them except for the top of the handguard (mine is at 15 instead of 13.5 - o, well, close enough…).
I’ve made a few changes based on the photos - not that they would be visible when printed in 1/35.
Hi John,
I ended up spending a lot more time putting together these CADs of British weapons. Once I started, I had to finish…
Can you please let me know if there are any glaring errors? I really wasn’t too sure about the LDS scope and had to guess based on limited reference photos.
L85A2 & LDS + CQBBS
Hi James, The L85 now looks perfect and that is a pretty damn good rendition of the LDS & CQB BS.
Ref the L119s the renditions are all good as they are, just remember they can be outfitted in so many configurations for individual operators on custom fit outs.
Now add to that various customsights, different types of down grips or angled hand grips, laser markers, torches etc etc etc … its a long list
