Bundeswehr M48

Hello Hauke,
thank you for the explanation !

Sean

Speaking of early gas powered M48s, does anyone know of an aftermarket fuel drum rack that was carried by the M48 and M48A1 in 1/35? The rack held four 55 gallon drums and was to be used up approaching and then jettisoned before entering the battle area

Carlos, apparently not; I asked this a couple of years ago. Nobody makes one sadly, as it would be an interesting fix, especially as the same was fitted to the mighty M103A1 which would really ring the changes on the display tables. There are some pretty good pics on the web and a small scale scale drawing as part of a Stephen Zaloga article many moons ago in Military Modelling magazine but other than that, zilch. Iā€™m just not a confident enough scratcher to tackle this, although in theory it should be relatively simple.

Mind you, Iā€™d love to be proved wrong about this and perhaps some enterprising 3D operation has oneā€¦?

I wouldnā€™t deal with Elefant if I were anyone else on here. He claims his printer is down and has been giving me that story for 2 months now. He is crap at communication. Iā€™ve turned the mess over to my credit card company to get a refund.You donā€™t have the DEF wheels which are the best aftermarket wheels out there and have the under cut like the AFV Club wheels. Also the Takom road wheels from their CM-11 and M60A1 ERA kits are as good as the AFV Club road wheels.

Brian, with my luck and track record, if I scratch build that rack, somebody will come out with one immediately or shortly afterwards. It always happens.

@Beentheredonethat, IIRC, there was a difference in appearance between the road wheels of the M48 family and M60 family. One type has a circular raised ridge between the hub and the rim, and the other has perpendicular reinforcing triangles running off the rim towards the hub.

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The original M60 wheels were aluminum and had the support ribs around the inner rim. They were found to be inferior and wore out quickly.

In later years, the same steel wheels as used on the M48 replaced them.

M60A3 w/steel wheels.

I think beentheredonethat means those kits come with the steel wheels.

M48s never used the aluminum road wheels but M60s later used the steel road wheels the M48s used. In fact itā€™s the same road wheel all the way back to the M26.

So then the Takom and AFV Club M60 kits come with the non M60 specific road wheels as well? Interesting.

No, they come with the road wheels they should have. What are non specific parts?

AFV Clubā€™s M60s come with a complete set of both types. Takomā€™s kits only come with one set in each.
Their CM-11 kits come with a set of the steel wheels. Their M60A1 USMC kit and M60A3 kits come with steel wheels as well. The M60A1 has the aluminum wheels.

I should have said non M60 specific steel road wheels in addition to the M60 specific aluminum road wheels. Poor choice of words on my part.

Steel road wheels are specific to M60s.

Ok, the steel wheels, as so you sound to describe them here, are used on the whole Patton/Pershing family of tanks. While the Aluminum wheels with the support ribs on the rim are only used on the M60ā€¦ thatā€™s what I mean by M60 specific. You will not see the ribbed road wheels on any other Pershing/Patton family type tank.

Friends, Roman and Country Men,

finally all should be set in respect to M48 and M60 roadwheels!

Be aware Carlos, M26, mM46, and EARLY M47 didnā€™t have the ā€œgrooveā€, but a so-called ā€œmud shieldā€!

Look what I have found!

Happy modeling!

Hauke

Guess again. Itā€™s the same road wheel. The mud shield was a metal insert that could be removed. Hereā€™s what they called the can opener they used to remove it. Itā€™s being used on a M24 while they werenā€™t the same road wheels, they were the same style. Like I said, it was the same road wheel from the M26 to the M60s.

Holy crap, thatā€™s a new one! Thanks for that little tidbit of info :+1:

Been out there forever. Been posted on a lot of other sites. Maybe you ought to get your info from more than one place. On this French M47 the 2 front wheels still have the insert while the others have had it removed.

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Funny how posting my M48 builds evolved into a doctorate thesis on road wheels ā€¦

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Well it did veer into the practice of naming vehicles by company letters for awhileā€¦ letā€™s see where this goes next.

@Beentheredonethat, so with that device in the photo of the M24, the outer lip of the roadwheel rim was removable?