As usual, lots of drama, hyperbole, and exaggeration but at its core a true story, not really secret though. I’ve seen better reports on it here:
Nasa’s Tire Assault Vehicle (TAV) : r/TankPorn (reddit.com)
Tire Assault Vehicle - Wikipedia
When NASA Used an RC Tiger II to Drill into Space Shuttle Tires - (tankhistoria.com)
CV-990 Tire Assault Vehicle (TAV) - Tank Encyclopedia (tanks-encyclopedia.com)
I actually have one of these in my stash to restore/rebuild, maybe I should do it as a TAV.
And then there’s the post from a few days ago…
And they had the nerve to think we were just a bunch a model geeks, sheesh! Obviously one of “US” was in the crowd to spur it on, how else would they have come up with such an idea. Model Geeks, Unite!
We did save the Shuttle, go figure, HA! Impressive bit of history, really.
Ruck On, Ma Brothas! Keep “sniffin paint and gluin them fingers together”, cause ya never know what it may lead to, HA!
Since I’m a 1/35 tank guy, and TDY’d to Edwards (Armstrong) a few times during my Military, and NASA career, I did get to see the model.
I don’t really care what the taunters think.
That said, I have asked: why is creating something in two dimensions such as a painting, “art,” but in three dimensions, a “toy?”
Artists also create in three dimensions, they call it sculpture and it is supposedly an art.
When a modeller (unlicensed artist, hasn’t attended art school) creates a figure it is ridiculed …
If you go to art school, they don’t give you a license, they give you a BFA degree, and I can tell you from experience, that qualifies you for a job as a supermarket stockboy!
Whenever “Mundanes” (non model builders) see my “art”, most are impressed and interested. If they question the 100 or so hours I have put into a build, I like to show them a good kit, a PE set, a resin set, a barrel, and a set of indy tracks and tell them, “This is what it started as.” THEN most people are VERY impressed.
My wife is a professional artist and she insists that what we as modelers do is art. I tend to disagree…we aren’t creating something out of nothing. We are assembling someone else’s creation much the way a person on an assembly line builds a car or plane.
I can see your point in the assembly stage but when u add the paint and weathering process to the kit that is when the art side of it comes it. You can take a kit any direction when you hit that stage from hyper realistic to hyper fantastical it’s all up to u.
So do model railway enthusiasts get accused of “playing with a train set”? If not, why does a much more toy-like hobby have more kudos than a scale model? After all architects make models of buildings, not “dolls houses”. Ref the “art” aspect, I’d classify model making more as a “craft”.
but then some of us “go to town” on the weathering (not me, no way) so that could be considered art.
Painters (artists) get a canvas (possibly already on a frame) and then start painting (weathering) it.
It happens. Until the train enthusiasts tells the noobs what the friggin things cost
The old prestretched double primed canvas…the artist’s equivalent of sliced bread! I’ll be sure to applaud her weathering…lol
I’ve got mixed feelings about models being art.
The thing behind the bike - art. The thing behind the thing behind the bike - art.
The bike? The guys who designed certain aspects of it who were not engineers were artists.
The guys who assembled the bike were technicians, not artists. And the bike, sexy as it is, is not art, IMHO.
There was no collection of parts that came rolling down an assemlby line. No box to open and parts to fondle. Everything was made from scratch, or repurposed from instruments of war, even the wheels. I’m going to say that in that case, it is a piece of art.
It would be easy to make comparisons to scratch building models. but even then, are you creating something new, or copying someone else’s design? Or bashing two existing things together to “create” something else that already exists?
Even now, with all of the scratchbuilding efforts I’ve posted over the years, I do not consider any of my models art.
I agree with you, I think art is subjective, ehat i see as art i nto what everybody else may see and its kind of up to the creator as well.
Very subjective indeed …
The link above is broken, I had to since the actual link contains the letter ‘i’ instead of the little star.
Copy and replace the * with i
It’s like this: as a history buff, I like collecting militaria.
Of course, I will never have an actual Panther F or Panther II.
So I build them in miniature.
Normies and NPCs ought to realize this shouldn’t be an issue.
But some aren’t happy unless they’re condemning and trying to make others unhappy.