So I could use sagged railing lengths folded down?
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So I could use sagged railing lengths folded down?
Right, but if the railings are folded down gravity would sag the lines toward the ocean surface rather than toward the shipās centerline (as they will with etched railings intended to be mounted upright). Each line of each section between the stanchions would have to be rotated individually downward 90 degrees. Lots of work!
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This version of the kit has a whole bunch of attacking Commandoās. Iām thinking mini-dio with the help of some scenes from the animated video posted above. It"s either lay the railings horizontally, or leave them off altogether - neither is really accurate - and you canāt have them standing, either!
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Looking great Tim,
The level of detail for 1/700th is splendid. I am finding the Konigsberg more an more irresistible.
Cheers
Si.
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RedDuster
Looking great Tim,The level of detail for 1/700th is splendid. I am finding the Konigsberg more an more irresistible.
Cheers
Si.
Thanks Si. This has been my first experience with Flyhawk, and up to now I have been seriously impressed with both the detail and fit. Howeverā¦
I had previously prepared Campbeltownās 20mm mounts with their etched brass shields. Focused on cleaning them up, repositioning some of the barrels to different elevations and fitting the shields, it somehow didnāt register when test fitting them that they were slightly too big for the tubs:
Now, with the barrel limiting rails in place, the discrepancy is obvious and guns wonāt fit into their tubs at all!
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Wellā¦aināt that a beyotch! I noticed that too on mine. The gunner would have to stand outside the tub! 
You may have to cheat a bit by locating the gun pedestal closer to the edge of the splinter shield.
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Wellā¦aināt that a beyotch! I noticed that too on mine. The gunner would have to stand outside the tub!
You may have to cheat a bit by locating the gun pedestal closer to the edge of the splinter shield.
I tried moving the pedestals forward, but unfortunately that doesnāt quite work either. Doh! It is seriously annoying that Flyhawkās guns donāt fit ā especially since in other respects I just love this kit!
Soā¦ what to do about it? The tubs canāt be enlarged, so it is the guns themselves that need to be adjusted. Those Iād modified to maximum elevation actually did fit into the tubs, but now that I see it this wonāt work either because they are just crammed in there and they would obviously not have been useable. I considered removing the shoulder braces or cutting sections from the middles to shorten them, but these solutions would have ruined the guns proportions.
Unable to think of any better options, Iāve reluctantly decided to modify my āout of the boxā approach for this model and use correctly scaled aftermarket guns. I have on hand some 1/700 scale 20mm Oerlikon mounts from White Ensign Models which should serve.
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3DModelParts make these: 1/700 Un-Shielded Single 20-mm Oerlikon Cannons (Pedestal Mount) - 30 pcs - 3DModelParts They may not look too good in these photos, but they are magnified 10+x. Iāve used them on Warspite and they look good:
They are well detailed and fit well in the gun tubs. (I added PE shields to the guns; they came without)
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Thanks for the suggestion, Leo, and nice Warspite! The 3D 20mm Oerlikon parts do look good, but I already have the White Ensign set on hand and Iām going to attack them this weekend.
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Hi Tim,
The level of detail in this OOB build is just incredible, I keep doing double-takes every time a finger makes an appearance, as the kit otherwise looks much larger. This has been a most enjoyable build to follow, and Iām looking forward to the final reveal. Shame about the over-sized AA pieces, but Iām sure you will power through with the replacements!
Marty
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Hi Tim! Shame about the 20mmā¦ I think youāve chosen the correct approach in choosing the WEM set to replace the kit partsš
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Hi Tim,
The level of detail in this OOB build is just incredible, I keep doing double-takes every time a finger makes an appearance, as the kit otherwise looks much larger. This has been a most enjoyable build to follow, and Iām looking forward to the final reveal. Shame about the over-sized AA pieces, but Iām sure you will power through with the replacements!Marty
Hi Tim! Shame about the 20mmā¦ I think youāve chosen the correct approach in choosing the WEM set to replace the kit partsš
Marty and Russ, thanks!
The White Ensign Models etched guns are nice, but they are twin mounts.
To make singles of them I bent them in the middle to double the barrels and the bodies and leaving a space between the shoulder braces at the rear. The tiny assemblies were then temporarily glued to a toothpick for painting. Here the braces are already painted pink, and the gun on the right has the barrel and body painted black as well.
The paint on the finished guns flows between the thin halves to give the flat etch a nice three-dimensional look.
Set on top of the kit gun pedestals and with the kit brass shields mounted, the guns on the aft deckhouse and on the āmidships ābandstandā are ready for action!
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Well done Tim and they are certainly an improvement.
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Great work Tim, huge improvement over the out of scale kit parts but then again I can sort of understand the kit parts as the moulds can only go so far with the plastic.
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Well done Tim and they are certainly an improvement.
LittorioBritish Bulldog
Great work Tim, huge improvement over the out of scale kit parts but then again I can sort of understand the kit parts as the moulds can only go so far with the plastic.
Richard and Luciano, thanks. I suppose Flyhawk did the best they could with their injection molded 20mm guns, but the finer etched parts do look better than the kit versions close up -
Although I must admit, at more normal viewing distances the tiny things do tend to disappear a bit into the surrounding detail -
And I still have those even smaller .50 caliber guns to replaceā¦
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Tim,
fantastic work - and due to the size issues with your 20 mm guns I still call it OOB 
Iām just catching up. She looks absolutely stunning, and I like the color!
Cheers
Jan
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JJ1973Patron
Tim,
fantastic work - and due to the size issues with your 20 mm guns I still call it OOB
Iām just catching up. She looks absolutely stunning, and I like the color!Cheers
Jan
Thanks Jan! Iād have liked to keep to the out-of-the-box rule for this build, but those 20mm guns just didnāt work - and neither did the .50cal guns (which the kit didnāt include, but I couldnāt resist adding). Iām still determined to keep the scratchbuilding to a minimum, though!
Having replaced the eight kit 20mms with the more petite WEM photoetched parts, the two .50 caliber guns Iād converted from the kitās spare 20mms had to be replaced as well.
I made up new .50s from the same WEM etched 20mm parts but with the shoulder braces cut away and the barrels slightly shortened. Temporarily attached to a toothpick for painting, here they are next to one of the 20mm guns, and behind them are their two mounts (plus a spare ā these miniscule things are so easy to lose!)
Iām not at all fond of redoing work, but at least the new .50s are more in-scale than my initial attempts. Also, the arm-type pedestals are more faithful to the original .50 cal Mk 3 mounts than the thick conical types of my first version ā so I guess the extra effort wasnāt altogether wasted!
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Nice progress Tim,
The WEM 20mm look good, like the 50 cals too.
Cheers
Si
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Nice job on those 20ās, and I would probably do similar if I had a WEM setā¦but I still have plenty of 3DModelParts 20ās to use up.
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Nice progress Tim,
The WEM 20mm look good, like the 50 cals too.
Cheers
Si
Nice job on those 20ās, and I would probably do similar if I had a WEM setā¦but I still have plenty of 3DModelParts 20ās to use up.
Thanks guys - Iām glad to be done with those tiny guns! Maybe 3D printed ones next timeā¦ 
By the way, take a look at those objects along Campbeltownās deck edge in front of the bridge:
Flyhawk included them on the model and they appear in photographs of the ship, but none of my references, Profile Warship 5 HMS Campbeltown (USS Buchanan) Flush Decker Destroyer 1918-1942 by John Wingate DSC, or Anatomy of the Ship The Destroyer Campbeltown by Al Ross,
Operation Chariot: The St Nazaire Raid 1942 by Jean-Charles Stasi, depict or make any mention of themā¦does anyone know what they were?
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