This subject interests me, but I feel there must be alternatives to this venerable Tamiya combo from 1976. Either as individual (but compatible) kits or as a combination kit itself.
Recommendations are welcome.
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ICM has the Horch, they call it Horch 108, also re-boxed by Revell.
Tristar 35010 gets you the Flak 38 with shield, 35029 is the late version without shield + ammo box for the trailer, the shield is included as an option. Tristar 35029 only contains one trailer so you can choose to have the gun on the ground and the trailer carrying the load box or have the gun in the trailer and forget the box.
One Horch towing gun plus one Horch towing ammo-trailer could be an interesting combination.
The Tristar kits are OOP but maybe someone still has one in stock or for sale on ebay.
Re-release by HB?
Tristar 35029, peek in the box:
https://www.super-hobby.se/products/German-20mm-gun-FLAK-38-Late-Sd.Ah.51.html
Tristar 35010, peek in the box:
https://www.super-hobby.co.uk/products/GERMAN-20mm-FLAK38-Sd.Ah.52.html
One of the various ICM boxings of the Horch, peek in the box:
https://www.super-hobby.co.uk/products/Typ-40-Soft-Top-WWII-German-Personnel-Car-100-new-molds.html
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Yes but HobbyBoss is selling reboxed kits.
Revell has reboxed the ICM Horch.
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Hello…everything everyone has said is true. And the old Tamiya Horch and 2cm Flak gun need some TLC for sure . But it’s a lot of plastic in the box. The figures in the Fall/early Winter smock build up decent. Their weapons are decent and there’s 2cm Ammo cans, tarp and I think I recall some crates. All can be replaced or added to with new weapons and stowage. Is everything in the box up to todays standards…no…would you have fun building what’s in the box…to me yes.
Depends on what you want…newer release by another model maker, therefore newer molding or a old stand by that when done will look the part. Just me two cents…back in the day’s I’d see the Tamiya Horch, figures and 2cm AA gun at shows for $12-16/18.00 and think I’m getting a lot for a little money. Mike
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ICM kit is the type 40, where Tamiya is the 1A. A lot of differences between them, the most obvious being the external fuel filler and spare wheels on the inside on the Type 40. So it depends which version you are thinking of.
The Tamiya kit has a lot of flaws and simplified aspects, like the doors on the rear. They should be rectangular not triangular-ish. The Tamiya kit may have been based on a photo where the side rear doors were hung on the rear by the crew:
It takes a lot of work to correct it if you want accuracy, or even a decent representation.
FC Model Trend does some AM sets for the Tamiya Kit, but that set has errors too, such as the loops on the ends of the frame between the front and rear sections - that is the version for the Type 40 and the loops are to clear the spare wheels.
I am not sure if the Type 40 was used to tow the Flak. By the time it began to be issued, in 1940, it seems to have been used as more of a personnel car.
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MiniArt makes a Kfz. 70 with 7.62cm F.K. 39 (r). It is a Mercedes-Benz, not a Horch, but looks very similar.
I own a L1500A Kfz. 70 German Personnel Car. It is crazy detailed.
This is an interesting synchronicity. Just last night, I considered purchasing a Tamiya Horch Type 1A for myself. (It is the same model as the one in the first post, minus the towed gun.) It is a much easier model than the MiniArt L1500A linked above but looks very similar. Review videos of the model show it has significant flash but that is easy to deal with. For someone like Peter, it is a bad model. For someone like me…maybe not so bad. I go back and forth on the detailed/not detailed thing.
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Even if you do all the fixing on the Tamiya kit rear (which they did correct in the 1/48 release), or get the ICM/Revell version, both still have a glaring error with the front end fender/wheel/bonnet geometry that is almost impossible to correct without 3D printing a full new forward section.
But these are currently the only game in town in 1/35 so if you want this vehicle you have to live with the errors.
For more info on the various types of the schwerer geländegängiger Personenkraftwagen programme see Kfz der Wehrmacht. Kfz.70 was the troop carrier, Kfz.69 was for Pak towing, and Kfz.81 was the Flak vehicle-towed (or mounted)
best regards
John
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Nice detailing.
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