The ‘logic’ behind Australia’s Bushmaster is that they are ‘simple’ units to operate. Besides Zelenskyy actually asked for them. So they are obviously aware of their capabilities. Australia has over 1000 Bushmasters. Many in storage. My understanding is that those that are being flown to Ukraine were white peace keeping units. Now painted olive green.
Just as an aside, Australia has sent a ship full of coal, yes I know, greenhouse gas. But helping isn’t always about things that go bang.
myself, I would just go out and raid the howitzer parks that have the older guns in them. Pretty simple and virtually howitzers are similar in their workings. Just M102’s alone would make a huge difference, and they don’t use them anymore. The M198 wouldn’t work as well, as it’s way too modern. Near sets a field full of MRAP’s just rusting away! Even HUMVEE’s would help a little bit.
gary
Well the question is what is asset and what is burden, uf i had to chose between a planeload of humwees and planeload of bulletproof vests, i chose the latter right now. Also arty doesnt seem to be an issue, they need more APCs i think, but where to get them ?
on the battlefield, 85% of the KIA’s come from some sort of arty. Always been that way. Nice thing about that M102 is their size and weight. Yes the range is a little short at 7.5 miles, but still quite usable. The round itself has about 80% of the killing radius the 155mm round has, so it’s very efficient. Plus a C17 load of ammo will take you a long way. You could tow them with most any half ton truck if you took some care, and anything bigger will easily get the job done. Once the ammo is uncrated, you’d be amazed at how much you can haul. There are other howitzers that are more modern, but also will need some training to use.
Remember all NATO wants to give them are defensive weapons, and that M102 will hold it’s own. Add to this, nobody wants to get into the mine business these days. I think in the end, they will have more APC’s than crews. Tanks as well are not an issue right now, but might be later. Been some talk about them getting AS-90’s, but that will become a logisticle nightmare. One round is 3mm bigger than the other. I do wonder if the U.S. 120mm mortar will fire Russian ammo? If so, that’s a good start
I think what Ukraine really needs the most right now is food and medicine. Bags of wheat and rice would go a long way. The U.S. could simply supply all the medical needs for the Ukraine, and never give it a second thought
gary
Ukraine has another type of “artillery”. It is a combined arty spotter and instant delivery.
Drones with night vision carrying bombs. No need for artillery spotters calling in fire that
will arrive in a couple of minutes. When the recon team suspects enemy in the woods they
send up a drone “loaded for bear” and drop the bombs right on top of the tank/APC/vehicle.
The Russian troops may hear a faint buzzing and suddenly their tank blows up
The Czech Zetor Crystal series of tractors (as released by TB Models) was built between 1968 and 1980, but Zetor has been on the Ukrainian market since 2012 only. So I’m not sure these models could be seen in Ukraine nowadays…
@neo, while we speak of tractors in Ukraine, do they have license plates? If yes, how do they look like. Might be interesting for those who build a “stealing” tractor.
Announcing to the world what you sent is mostly a political credit sort of thing. In reality what we sent or are helping with may not be advertisable. If we are running drone missions for example that would be a quiet operation. Satellite intel is critical, but not so dramatic. How about the number of antitank missiles we are sending? I know my friend at a defense company is happy with the new work. Could be Special forces are there now. How much Russian built equipment do we have and maintain? Not much. Sending older M1A1’s will take time to train up on that they don’t have. We are doing other things. I suspect that with the House and Senate behind this, a lot is happening.