NATO green and CARC green question

3/4 of these tanks in bright noon-day sun near Kennesaw GA:


The Challenger is US Army ODG Shade 8


The Tiger E is Vallejo ODG


The Leopard 2A4 isTamiya NATO Green, straight from the rattle can. The Bundeswehr uses Olivegrün (RAL 6003) green on its Leopard 2 MBTs.

Al these were done w/o primer. My intent was to show the colors and to highlight / compare similarities and differences. For a paint company to match any color exactly they would need the data set (hex, etc.) to do so. Models are often shown indoors, where lighting is often yellowish or even red-shifted. Looks can be deceiving.

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The Abrams M1AGDS in Bronze Green (Vallejo color). This has shown up on export Abrams (Ukraine and Australia) and Bradleys (Ukraine).

Same bright just-past-noonday sun near Kennesaw Mountain.

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hi
many years ago i matched a current British tank after just been sprayed after rebuild with paint from a newly painted tank to vallejo paints .
turned out to be Vallejo Russian primer
here is a bulldog i built to depict a model after being rebuilt.


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There can be no more legit source than that. :grinning_face:

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British Main Battle Tanks (MBTs) primarily use a shade of green known as BS 285 IRR Green for their main camouflage scheme. This green is often applied over a base layer of Light Stone. This is the base color for desert camouflage schemes, often used in conjunction with BS 285.

Some suggest that matte IRR (IR REFLECTING) BS 285 is nearly identical to “NATO Green”.

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Hi
I when I was working on them and rebuilding them it was a new green colour not the old Ir paint
We never got in to what it’s number was has I did not work in the spray shop.
They might have done some time ago but not while I was there .
When I was on the build lines it was primer under the green paint. Not sand only certain vehicles were painted in the new sand colour , different to gulf war 1
Colour changed just after Gulf War one , and black is not so common now has it was .

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Good insights, Michael. Thanks!

Hataka claim that their “modern British” set uses these:

BS285 is NOT shown!

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I have a question. Can I paint NATO green to soviet/russian modern armor?

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You CAN do anything you like.

MOST of the paint manufacturers have a modern Russian green in their portfolio

Background:

Introduced in the mid-2010s, this color has a noticeable blueish tone and is often observed on newer Russian tanks. It’s been described as a green-blue or even bronze green.

This is the older, more traditional green used extensively by the Russian army. It’s a khaki-green shade and is still widely used.

This shade was lighter than XB-518 and also used by the Red Army and is used by some of the Russian army tanks, according to an article on Britmodeller.com.

This color has been discontinued, and its replacement, Camo Olive Green, is noticeably lighter.

This paint is often recommended as a close substitute for the discontinued Vallejo 894 Russian Green.

This is a dark green color that was used on Soviet tanks during WWII.

Another option that can be used as a dark green substitute for Russian green.

This color has a greenish tint and is also recommended as a substitute.

NC-1200

NATO green from the same manufacturer

HUGE difference

So, IF you are able to get to your local hobby store, I opine they can oblige you. And there is the internet shopping bazarr for all!

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Thank you for the help. :slightly_smiling_face:

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has i said the colours have changed and bronze green is very GLOSS and blue Tint new items normally come in Bronze green or new base coat green

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You’re welcome!

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Since you say Soviet/Russian modern armor, I will assume that would cover their time during the Afghan games.
I have an interior floor panel from a BRDM-2 that never saw the sun, until I plucked it from its home. The green on it is an almost perfect match for Model Master Forest Green, which means you can lighten the color slightly for scale effect if you like.

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This is my backup account, unable to get my old one up and running…
I served 26+ years in the Canadian Armoured Corps crewed wheeled, light & heavy tracked, 7 tours last 3 combat tours in Afghanistan commanding Leopard C2 MEXAS & Leopard 2’s. Retired, now a published historian/author on post second world war Canadian Armoured Vehicles and a tech adviser for a few model companies that market Canadian military vehicles…

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The new Russian green I showed above is post-Afghanistan iirc. It was first seen on a few vehicles, then made the big time with the T-14. It is the apparent color of choice for 21st century Russian AFV.

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