Reloading and Shooting

Curious are you a lefty or is the target upside down? Just asking as most pull to the left right handed.

My targets below will show how mine pull left also while doing one hand.

I’m a lefty and I didn’t realize I was holding the target upside down in the photo.

Interesting topic posted two days ago by WW2TV.

My daughter is a twenty year old PhD candidate who already teaches at the university level. Now before anyone should :roll_eyes: let me explain. That is not to boast about her (she doesn’t even like us to mention her age or what she does to people) but rather to illustrate how even smart people can ask the absolute dumbest questions. She gets this text from her fiance’s father (assistant fire department chief in our town) and sends me a copy:

I know that your dad is into reloading. Would he want a bunch of gun powders? Someone dropped off a bunch and we’re not sure what to do with it. I could drop it off today.

Now I can forgive his question - we’ve only met three or four times. But my daughter’s question floored me:

Dad, are you interested?

Whuh? My genius daughter who sees me reloading all the time, usually while watching something on Netflix (I highly recommend the series 6ixtynin9 - just binged it) didn’t know the answer to that? That’s like asking my chihuahua if she wouldn’t mind tasting the Amazon delivery guy’s calf.

So here’s the bounty - all full, and going by the prices on the stickers (and some of these are a little older) easily $800 worth of powder. Some is fairly caliber specific, but most can be used for pistol and even magnum loads:

Toughest thing about the zombie apocalypse? Pretending you’re not stoked about it.

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Quote of the Week - possibly the decade…
:grin: :+1:t2:
I’m trying to get it put into legislation that undertakers have to tie the shoelaces of the deceased together. That way if there is a Zombie Apocalypse at least it will be funny…
:smiling_imp:
Cheers,

M

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Guys range ammo. Another video somewhere he says for WSHTF.

He lost me at the thirty second mark.
I make an assload of ammo. I’m not going to show it to the entire planet. I don’t stockpile it though. While I do have an inordinate amount, it’s so I can shoot the hell out of it before having another marathon reloading session. I’ll shoot at least three or four times per week. I don’t need tens of thousands of rounds - at some point I can just start taking mags off the bodies stacked in my driveway if it ever gets to that point.

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I just crack up when the national news jumps on a shooting story and has to tell you about the “cache”
of arms found in a house and the 500 plus rounds he was stockpiling.

News always wants to use cache: Cache primarily refers to a thing that is hidden or stored somewhere, or to the place where it is hidden.

I guess we both must have gun cache’s?

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I think the video guy “might” have a cache in his ammo bunker.
Should he have a house fire, what are the odds of the fire department actually showing up on your property when you tell them you have over a hundred thousand rounds in the burning building? What are the odds of your insurance company paying on the loss because the fire department was kept at bay by exploding ammunition? I do not know at what point some type of fire suppression/ containment system becomes a requirement.

We had dinner with the assistant chief tonight. He has great stories - two about fire houses that had fires due to things being left on the stove during a call out, and local one that recently burned to the ground,
The subject of foundation repair came up, because it’s a huge problem during extended droughts here. I said if I noticed a problem I’d just set off the thirty pounds of powder he just gave me in the house near the crack, and blame it on that. Insurance companies won’t cover cracked foundations, but they will cover other stupidity. My friend down the street burned the whole upper story of his house two winters ago because of a deep freeze that knocked out power for a week. He had a fire in his fireplace and of course he hadn’t cleaned the chimney in some years. When he went outside and noticed flames shooting out the side he attempted to put out the fire, but of course his outside water faucet was frozen.
The insurance company paid in full. His wife had always wanted to redo the master bath anyway.
Down side - he lost his whole gun collection. The Thompson might be salvagable with new furniture…

Firefighters study what happens to ammo in a house fire.

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I’ve been aware of the low risk of ammo for years. Yet some fire departments still shy away from entering a structure with known quantities of ammuntion. I’ve posted photos of my hooch in Afghanistan - sleeping next to a huge ammo dump - linked .50 and 7.62 ammo, AT-4’s, Karl Gustav rounds. Never gave it a second thought.
The drop test is interesting as well. However, remember that is western ammmo.
We found a cache of Soviet 14.5mm and other large caliber ammo in the mountains in Afghanistan. One of our AMF dropped a Spam can of 14.5 on the rocky terrain and one of the rounds did indeed go off. Blew a nice hole in the can, but not from the projectile, just the force of the detonation.
I meant to post a little on the subject last night in fact in my above post, but t was late and I forgot to mention it. Our Fire Department wouldn’t shy away from it because I happened to specifically ask about it at dinner. I lso told him I was going to store the powder he gave me in the drawer underneath the oven, :rofl:

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When the anti gun community went nuts with drone builders. again 2015.

For those of you in Southern (or Central) Colorado, hell even New Mexico:

The Southern Chapter of the Special Forces Motorcylce Club is hosting another 3 gun match on October 7.in Cactus Flats (minutes from Florence and Penrose) starting at 9:00 am. I will be the range safety there as well as competing. We’re raffling off a CZ Scorpion along with 500 rounds of ammo for it,
100% of our proceeds benefit veterans. I promise a good time will be had by all. Apache26 came to one of our events earlier this year, and he sure appeared to be having fun.
Contact me if you need more details.

many years ago we had a strong argument at work about reloading. One group was really hung up on the Dillon stuff and the other stuck on sing stage presses. After getting tired of listening to both sides I said to just load up ten .223 rounds, and we’d check them out to see who was loading the best. I just grabbed ten empty cases, and ran them thru a regular die (a Forster die set to be exact). Others were using Lee, RCBS, and Hornaday presses. The progressive guys were using all sorts of stuff as well. Well they all seemed to show up at the sametime, and I made a gauge. The Dillon stuff ran out all over the place, and seemed average about .009" run out. The worst was around .011"! The Redding was the best progressive with about ,005/.006" of run out. A guy named Tony used both styles of presses, and his were right in line with the Dillons. His single stage rounds were in the .003"/.004" run out numbers. I was the last guy we checked, and my worst rounds were in the .0017" of run out. The better ones were in the one thousandth area with a couple in the .0005" area. The Redding was best because it had a working reactionary bar on the back side of the plate, but needed to be adjusted slightly (he didn’t know what it was for). Then they got to arguing about the dies being used. (good point) So I loaded up another ten rounds to really set them in orbit, I loaded the with my arbor press and a set of Wilson dies for a .244" neck diameter. Same bullets and the worst round was about .00085". Most were in the .00045" area. Next time around they said it was the gauge I built in about a half hour. I bring my Nikko gauge, and the results were the same. I gave Tony the 20 rounds to see how they shot. They shot one single ragged hole. End of that argument.
I asked those guys how they checked their loads before shooting, and drew a blank! I told them I used a $70 Lyman with a couple Sinclair add on’s. Yet If I was serious, I would use another measure. It was good for a tenth of a grain, but the Lyman was just about as good for one third of the money. I actually checked every charge twice on two different scales. (a force of habit I got from stick powder). I primed with a K&M hand tool, and see no need for anything better (more expensive). I’m really into head space, and have a couple tools for checking it that I built. Tony’s rifle barrel was chambered with a reamer that I used for one of my .223’s, so I knew up front he was good to go. Plus I wanted to see just how good that rifle of his would shoot. Made my Remington look like junk.
gary

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yowsie, Gary your many levels beyond what I even began to try when I got into reloading. I had a couple of failure to feeds and just gave up on it. Didnt think trying to master 9mm reloads was worth researching. Had I been doing the types you guys talk about I would have thought different.

I like reloading, but I’m not into “precision” shooting as much as Gary. I’ve nothing against it - I just don’t see a situation where I’ll ever need to hit any past 100m again.

When I got my first Henry for Father’s day - the Big Boy in .357 Magnum, I knew it wouldn’t be my only Henry.
My wife got me another one for my birthday, this time in .44 Magnum. Only this time in stainless instead of brass. While I had put the brass Skinner sight on the .357, I thought I’d go with something different on the .44, so I got the 1895 scope for it in stainless. it matches quite nicely.

But how does it shoot?
Well, after fruitlessly trying to get a good group at 100 yards with the stock buckhorn sight, which everyone on the planet pretty much agrees sucks big time, I shot a group with the new scope.
I only had five rounds left of the Precision One ammo (I have not yet begun reloading .44 Mag because large Magnum primers are hard to procure locally) so I had to make every round count.

My quick session dispelled two myths above:

  1. The cold bore shot. But I’ve already proven that with my AR. Don’t clean your gun every time and you’ll be fine.
  2. There are no 1 MOA guns.

Here are the results at 100 yards. The first two shots at the lower left of the coffee filter touch. So much for the cold bore theory. The third was a called flyer. I was using an assault pack as a rest and felt the gun moved just as the sear broke.

I went down to observe my target, discounted the flyer and made adjustments according to the instructions that came with the scope.
The final two shots ended up close enough to center for me to call it good.

I may go back today and shoot some even hotter ammo. But truthfully I bought the nickle plated brass rounds to go in the buttstock cuff (and eventually sling) that I’m making myself.
Call it posuerish if you will but I think they look great with the Henry and the scope.

So, at least for that one day, the gun is a sub MOA gun. I’ve always thought there are sub MOA guns, just not many sub MOA shooters. And I’m not even that good…

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I need some help and I’m hoping that the fine people of this page will be able to help. I want to put together a work bench to work on and repair my own firearms and I need a comprehensive list of all of the things that I will need to set this up.

So as a follow up to the post two posts up - I went back to the range and fired a couple of those higher velocity 44 mag rounds. I showed him the picture. As expected with a much higher muzzle velocity, the rounds climbed higher at 100 yards.


It’s important to know that I did not clean the barrel whatsoever since the last time I fired the gun. I offer this as further proof that the concept of the Cold War shot is highly overrated. These two rounds landed almost exactly where I expected them to, albeit slightly to the left. But there was a slight bit of a cross wind today. The rounds are almost touching, which shows me that the difference between a cold bore shot and a shot in a warmed up barrel is negligible. It also shows me once again there is such thing as a sub MOA rifle. I mean, think about it. This is a lever action rifle shooting pistol ammunition of all things. Can you imagine if Gary applied all of his voodoo magic on the rounds? There’d probably be one hole in the target.
Or even better, fired from a bench rest, instead of an assault pack filled with my daughter’s stuffed animals.

I had a friend (no longer a friend) who was into the bowling pin shooting with a couple 45’s. He had feed issues as well, and ended up finding a “roll sizer” for his brass. He loaded for forty caliber and 9mm as well. That took care of his feeding issues 100%. Works only with rimless cartridges, and there is a learning curve. I shoot a lot of wheel guns so I had little need for one, and even then had no idea where to get one. With revolvers, most of us use the sizer die with the carbide ring built in it. Problem with it is that it only sizes about three quarters of the case, and even then usually way under the chamber size, I reworked several sets of steel dies (the ones nobody wants) to fit the chambers (about .003" smaller). Brass lasted longer and the revolvers shot better.
gary