Tamiya - Cromwell MK IV

The Tamiya kit was a joy to build :slight_smile: That’s really all there is to say about the build. Used the Tamiya PE screens and otherwise it’s a stock build.

Completed the British Cromwell in 2009 but didn’t finish the project with a base and name plate until today. The vinyl tracks fell a part into several large sections and the model went from being a Cromwell to a Crom-not-so-well. Managed to find all the pieces and more or less super glue the tracks back together.

Happy to at last wrap my first complete project since 2003 :slight_smile:

Picked up a clearance bookcase for cheap for additional shelf space for the old Cromwell and hopefully some newly completed projects to follow.

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Sorry to hear abut the tracks but sounds like you made a nice recovery. Have never had any trouble with Tamiya tracks so your report is rather troubling. Nice recovery though and a nice looking build with subtle weathering. :+1: :+1:

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Looks great. I love British tank design and the Cromwell exemplifies it so much!

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@Armorsmith & @McRunty

DV & Rory, thank you!

I’m definitely a fan of how British Armour looks as well. Would really like to do a Crusader when that new kit hits the market.

This my only Tamiya kit that had issues with the vinyl tracks out of dozens of them over the years. It seems like the major exception. Last week went through dozens of models well over 20+ years old none of the vinyl track kits had issues.

Isn’t it the glueable type in the Cromwell kit? Could they have been affected by any paint that you might have used?

Maybe the “softness” in them simply evaporated over time?

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@Armor_Buff

Very nicely done Wade. I have this kit on my mind for my next build now! I think I also have some plastic indi-link tracks for it and sandbags for the front ready to go.

If you are talking about the Border Models Crusader kit, its already out and the sprues and kit look great. The tracks on that one will be the challenge as when I opened the box they are all individual plastic pins from memory.

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IIRC the Cromwell was one of the first Tamiya kits with the new glue-friendly formula. In general this seems to make tracks vulnerable to chemical attack from solvent-based paints and weathering products, with disastrous results. My Tam kits all have HB indy-links instead. Same issues dog the Dragon DS tracks and Tasca/Asuka tracks…

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@Nickpal01 Nick, thank you. Sand bags will definitely make a nice addition. Yes Border’s Crusader! Indy w/plastic pins…yikes…I will definitely look for aftermarket tracks for that kit.

@barkingdigger Tom, thank you for the info, I knew Dragon’s stuff had issues but didn’t know the Tasca/Asuka kit tracks did as well.

@Uncle-Heavy , Yes Robin the tracks were the glueable tracks. They have lost all of their softness and are quiet brittle.

I’ve used the same Floquil paint and naphtha for thinner on other sets of Tamiya glueable tracks without the same issue. Those tracks lost flexibility but didn’t shatter like the ones on the Cromwell did.

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Wade, nice, clean build and I like the weathering. It’s nice to see a tank without an Army/Navy surplus store heaped on it for a change. Classy presentation too. Congrats on completing one Bro!

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Ditto what Matt said!
I think the lightly weathered look is perfect for it.

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Resurrected thread due to building another Tamiya Cromwell MK IV.

This one will have an imagi-neered version of zimmerit as the British tested various anti-magnetic mine pastes with various tanks but didn’t field any. A Sherman & Cromwell were the primary test vehicles. British Zimmerit makes an interesting read and inspired the model. Pictures for discussion only.

Make-your-own-zimmerit-with-tamiya-gray-putty-testors-liquid-cementcovers my Zimmerit application.

Revisiting Tamiya’s Cromwell proved interesting. The one at the top of the thread was purchased when the kit released in ~1997. Construction started in 2004 and it was finished in 2009. It was the finest highest quality easiest to build kit that crossed my work bench up to that point with perfect fit. This kit shown below is a good kit but is apparently a much newer re-pop.

With assembly basically completed, a prior build plus the experience of refurbishing it after damage, revamping another modeler’s Centaur, it’s time for a Wade’s World Review

My opinion, others experiences may vary.

5 Price ~$33, Amazon, a few days ago

5 Instructions - Excellent! Some bonus materials. Pay attention to the interal/external track tensioner comments or the model may end up with a combination of both parts.

4 Molding Quality - The original kit would score 5 as it was flash and sinkmark free. The current kit on the bench surprisingly has some sinkmarks plus minor flash. For a ~28 year old kit it’s very good.

4 Plastic Quality - Recently worked on a Tamiya Leopard 2A7V and a Tamiya Late Tiger 1, both first run production kits and both seemed to have better quality plastic than this kit. Likewise, I recall my first Cromwell as higher quality. The very dark green is off putting compared to the lighter color plastic. The quality is very good.

4 Parts Clean Up - under the fenders is pretty nasty. Lot of punch marks, super glue and accelerator are your friend, if that is the sort of thing bothers you. Several sink marks have to be fixed and sanded flush. Some parts have flash and many have mold seams to remove. IIRC this was the first I saw where the mold seam on the wheels was pushed towards the edge of the wheel. This makes cleaning the wheels easier and seems to me like an excellent approach. Kudos :clap: Tamiya.

5 Ease of Build - Still nearly 30 years later one of the very best building kits to see my work bench. This kit literally makes me hate all Dragon kits in general.

4 Accuracy - No idea. Looks like a Cromwell to me. One of the few choices for the subject matter. I have zero references on the Cromwell to check. Unlike Airfix’s 1st attempt at Cromwell a few years ago, the Tamiya kit has the correct number of bolts on the road wheels (8) instead of six like Airfix. I have a later produced Airfix Cromwell with the correct number of bolts on the wheels.

Edited score to a 4 in light of the errors on the engine deck.

5 Fit - as good as it gets. Not one 2020+ kit I’ve built was better. Exactly one was equal, Ryefield’s KV-1 1942.

2 Doesn’t Require Aftermarket - that mesh Tamiya put in the kit in place of PE just looks nasty. The mesh looks terrible if installed compared to the Tamiya PE parts. Ripped the nasty mesh off of the previously built Centaur, can’t stomach it. It too will get PE. The kit tracks are passable and the sag can be simulated by using CA to tack them to the top of the road wheels. The MG’s have flash supressors and are easy, enough to drill out. Aber brass barrels if available would rock.

4 Details Built Out of the Box - in ~1997 and years after, this kit was in my opinion a Natural Born Killer for the out of the box category at model contests.

** 42 points out of 50 **

Highly Recommended, with the aftermarket PE screens.

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Both Cromwells look great Wade. :+1:

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Thank you, Ryan. The Cromwell is my favorite Allied tank of WW2.

This one is stalled waiting on aftermarket parts to arrive.

It will eventually get a set of Fruilmodel tracks and Aber metal main gun.

Looking forward to painting soon.

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Looking great! Cool concept, neat to see a Cromwell in zimmeit.

Inspect your Aber barrel closely when it arrives, mine had a cracked in half length wise muzzle brake :frowning: I was able to salvage it with solder but it was a pain in arse

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@Mead93 , thank you and I appreciate the heads up on the Aber barrel. Had a couple of brass items from Aber that were a little rough. Definitely check it when it arrives.

@Tank_1812 Ryan, on futher review by our board of directors (Me, Myself & I :wink: ) after a unanimous vote, the Wade’s World score for the Cromwell in Accuracy will be adjusted down to a 4 accordingly.

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15 days later, braving the after Christmas rush, New Year’s and a snow storm…

…officially unstalled!

I just have to get a Dragon T-34/76 STZ 1941 wrapped before returning to the Cromwell.

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Back on the Cromwell, working on Fruilmodel tracks. Easily one of the very worst sets of Fruils I’ve seen. Each link has as a lot of flash the wire holes have to chased and or drilled out.

Very disappointed in Fruil.

The quality improved again when the original owner fired everyone and took over everything again back in the early 2020’s. However, these newly purchased links suck just as bad quality wise as BEFORE the house cleaning.

No idea when these were cast.

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Sweet! Indeed…even the casting flash started looking tear shaped to cleaning ~250 links!.. :laughing:

One track wrapped and one to go…

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I was musing that since we’re likely to re-run the 1930’s over the coming years, we should revive that era’s dress code, like BBC radio announcers got dressed up in full penguin suit to read the news. We should all get dressed up like Smokey & the Miracles before contributing to this site. Preliminary dance moves recommended but optional.

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