Verlinden 120mm 82nd Airborne

Nice one Ryan! Also bookmarked :grin:
G.

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I don’t know, I think the brown is ok. I still have some of my BDUs and the brown can range from a chocolate brown to what you have here depending on how worn out they are. When I get home from work I could take some pics of them. Love the highlights and shadows on the helmet cover, looks great Lazarus.

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It’s difficult to give comment in an early stadium of a figure, looking forward to see this growing.

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I’m with @metalhead85- the brown looks good to me. As he touched on there were lots of variations in tone based on age, wear and tear etc.

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Ok Gents, I bow to your wisdom and experience. The brown stays as it is! Now for the sand……Updates coming soon :grin:
G.

Right then lads, moment of truth time! Does it look like woodland camo or, is it time for the oven cleaner?



And the face……

And finally, one for Rich.

Still got to add the metallic highlights and wear effects on the M60 yet but I’m happy with how it’s going.
G.

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The Woodland Camo looks spot on. Great job.

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Hell yeah it looks like woodland camo ! Gino said it best- spot on

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Looks awesome!
Just one note about the M60. The butt stock is rubber on the outside if memory serves me, with the end cap in metal. So don’t metalize the butt stock except for the end piece. It’s visible on the pic I sent in an earlier post. Not sure if it’s actually on your model but the M60 also had a flip up shoulder rest attached to the end of the butt stock. The hand grip is also rubber so don’t metalize it except for the trigger. You can hit the rivets with metal if you want of course. Not sure but I think the lower part of the forearm grip is coated in rubber too.

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Looking good. I would say the pattern is a bit underscale, as woodland has larger patches of color, but I do like it nevertheless:

A question about M60… there’s something about the bipod that doesn’t look right to me. It’s not completely folded, I think. I never had the gun in my hands, so perhaps someone more knowledgeable might chime in… but I would suspect the bipod is either fully open or fully closed?

Mario

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I have to agree with Maki about the camo pattern. It does actually look very good as is- it is recognisable as Woodland- and it is very nicely picked out with spot-on colors. However, I think, if you might wish to change anything (understandable if you do not) then Maki has already said it- the color swatches need to be a little bigger and IMHO some (but not all) of the edges need to be a little smoother. To my eyes this seems do-able without getting the oven cleaner out - the brown color swatches to me seem to be the ones that need enlarged.

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The only thing I might do is enlarge the black squiggles s little if anything. As far as the bipod legs, they often times were slightly loose and did hang down just a little in my experience.

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Hi lads, thanks for all of your comments. I appreciate all of them. Firstly, the camo. I’m wondering if it changed slightly over the years or maybe between manufacturers? This is the example I followed:


Now it does look like the pattern is smaller compared to the image from Mario, similar to the difference between Heer and Luftwaffe Splittertarn patterns in WW2. Here’s another pic that, to my eye, looks different again.

I think my best bet here is, as pointed out, is to add more of the brown and increase the size of some of the black ‘branches’. Thoughts and viewpoints gents?
Now, on to the M60… Rich, your insight is proving invaluable here. I wasn’t aware that the black parts were rubber. I was under the impression that they were just painted black and would have weathered them accordingly so, you saved me there! As for the bipod, I did do some research on this from anecdotes from the men who used them and, as Rich states, loosening was mentioned as a common problem. I modelled them like this to add a bit of visual interest. Unfortunately, since the last photo, the PE foresight has pinged off into oblivion so I now have to fabricate a new one……:frowning:
Don’t you love this hobby…….
G.

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You’re doing beautifully here Lazarus.
I would just tweak the camo colors as mentioned earlier - just a little- and you’ll be fine. A little variation is fine.
One thing I forgot to tell you about is at the end of the feed tray cover, the part that tapers towards the butt stock is also a rubber piece riveted to the steel part underneath it.

One other thing I forgot to mention was there seems to have been an early version of this pattern that was used in the latter years of Vietnam by LRRPs, Marines and SF if I recall.
The front sight post on the M60 is a simple affair which shouldn’t be hard to scratch build I would think. The 60 I used from ‘85-‘89 and into my Reserve years remained unchanged even in Bosnia in 97-98, and in my switch to the Air Force. Can’t remember the exact year but we then converted to the M240B. The SF and SEALs modified their M60s over the years and I think the Marines may have too.

I see exactly what you are getting at there. The two examples do seem different to me as well.

That was ERDL camo. Predecessor camouflage pattern to woodland. Very similar shapes, but a bit smaller pattern repeat, and different colors.

From left to right: woodland, transitional ERDL, ERDL.

Mario

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Yes that’s the one Mario, I forgot the name





Here’s some things I have found helpful. Citadel actually has some shades and washes that look pretty good. I managed to do couple different figures using different combinations although maybe not perfect compared to what I tried years ago that ended up making me shy away from attempting anything other than Caucasian for years. I’ll let you be the judge







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I have yet to try an African American soldier skin tone but will soon. I have a number of projects in the works. Looks like a decent tutorial there.
Al I don’t believe there were any African American soldiers in the 101st Airborne Division in WW2. They were in the 555, or “Triple Nickel” which I think was an independent battalion.

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