African Nations - Land, Sea, Air or Elephant platforms- Friend or Foe

Thanks @SGTJKJ

Got the engine built up today.

For anyone who cares to follow along, the continuing saga in all its eye-wateringly boring detail, it may be found here.

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Alright, I’m getting ahead of my self a little, but I need to start planning my colours as this is one of those paint as you go type assemblies.

Anyone want to hazard what a good starting point for this yellow might be?

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Also, any thoughts on cab interior colours? Originally I thought these would have all come Russian green from the factory with the camo applied locally, but if you look, you can see the yellow on the underside of the turn table for the rocket pod. So either someone lifted it off, or these came yellow from Chelyabinsk. The inside of the door looks yellow, which makes sense, but do we think the whole interior is the same?

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AK makes a Russian grayish green (urgh, yellow) in their real colors line which I think is a soviet AFV color, but that’s just a guess.

Thanks Phil.

I grabbed a pot of Modern Russian Green having originally planned a more green heavy camo pattern.

I think I’ll use that for the chassis anyway and then yellow for all the tinwork. Realistically if they’ve gone to the trouble of painting the underside of the rocket mount yellow, they probably did the cab interior too.

The yellow looks just like British Portland Stone as I mixed it in Tamiya paints from Mike Starmer’s Caunter colours:
Portland Stone BS.64 (MESCC 11).
Mix: 7 x Humbrol 196 + 2 x Humbrol 34 + 2 x Humbrol 74.
Tamiya: 1 x XF57 + 6 x XF2 + 1 x XF3.

Add 30% - 40% Clear Gloss for a satin to gloss finish

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Peter I think you’ve just saved me a lot of faffing about!

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Tamiya Xf-60 with some white added would be OK to me.

Olivier

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Don, indeed a strange yellow color.

The interior looks green to me, not yellow. If you look at the edge of the open door it looks like standard Russian green to me.

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Been slowly trucking along with my Olifant MkII.

Majority of the upper hull and turret have been completed. Still some left to do.

On the lower hull I have attached the painted roadwheels. The return rollers look shoddy but since they will be covered by the side skirts I didnt do much to them. Mostly just painted the bottoms so if you look up from under the model, you will see them painted.

Tracks have been assembled and base coated with cheap primer from Home Depot. Unfortunately I cannot attach and complete the upper hull until the tracks are installed. I do my airbrushing in my basement which is not heated and lets just say the temp is not contusive to painting…

View from the basement.

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Yes. I can imagine painting fine camo would be tricky while you are shivering your eyeballs out and the paint turns into an icicle as it leaves the airbrush.

Over here we have the opposite problem - heat and humidity

As one of your northern neighbors I can recommend brisk morning walks, skating, skiing and lots of time at a warm model bench.

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Hi all, I would like to ask about a kit to enter into this campaign…
Based on this screenshot:

from a documentary about the six day war in 1967, showing the defeated Egyptian army in the Sinai, I think the Egyptian army used this one:


The truck in the screenshot sure looks like it, and taking into consideration that Syria was still using some Sturmgeschuts panzers during that war, I think this is very possible.
So I want to do this Mule as an abandoned Egyptian halftrack, making it a vehicle used bu an African Nation.
If you think this is to farfetched, I will be happy to withdraw it, won’t be pressing the “going” button until I have your permission.

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The shape is close Bert, but those sure look like wheels rather than tracks. Is really hard to tell, but I see a lot of light showing fore and aft where as the tracks should extend further out in both directions.

I was almost wondering if it’s a CCKW but the cab shapes of both are pretty similar at that distance.

I tend to disagree on the fact if it is a truck or halftrack, but we will just have to wait till the campaign master reacts :roll_eyes:

It is a Zil 157. Here is one that was abandoned during the 6 day war.
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Maultier were high maintenance vehicles and highly unlikely to still be around 20+ years after was end. Tanks were expensive but the Zil truck series was a cheap. mass produced truck and the Soviets flooded the Middle eastern countries with them.

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Thanks for clearing it, I won’t enter the Mule in this campaign…

@bwilt, was it not used in the Afrika Korps or in Tunisia in WW2?

To the best of my knowledge, none went to Nth Africa. They were designed for Russia and most went there or France, etc. Rommel took purpose built halftracks to the desert and was hard pressed getting anything more afterwards.

Well, there were 21000 built, and the internet is filled with pictures of them in desert colors with DAK signs, the kit comes with DAK decals… I suppose they could all be wrong… but I think that it was used in the DAK, and therefore would have been available to Egypt. And about vehicles used 20+ years after the WW2: look at the IDF vehicles…

But it is up to you to decide, no problem for me, I will build it anyway just not in this campaign.

I didn’t mean to seem like I was dismissing your idea Bert, I was just stating what the truck was and my additional comment was just a logistical approach. Without spares to fix them, and with the desert severely damaging to tracked vehicles at the best of times, how could they keep Maultier, using Panzer 1 and universal carrier parts, operating into 1967? Why would they bother when the Russians were giving them more modern, more reliable and heavier capacity trucks for a song?

There is nothing wrong with a what if scenario and never say never. A lot of equipment was acquired from the French after WW2, so who knows, maybe a Maultier could have been in the mix. Group builds are supposed to be fun and if Phil says you can build it for the campaign, then that is the final word.