abandoned in a hurry but it doesn’t seem to have been tidy before they left either …
Late edit: The title should have been ‘What a military camp site should not look like’
Not changing it now
See replies below, those with military experience from professional armies have reacted to the total mess displayed by this camp.
Looks like a severe lack of any type of discipline … And I certainly would not be opening up random ammo boxes to see whats inside unless I was on the end of a very very long pole and a bank of sandbags
The lack of discipline is clear here - no American NCO would ever let their operational area look like that for any length of time and I’m betting the same is true of every Western military.
I’m gonna give those Russians the benefit of doubt. We were not even slightly close to them when they pulled out. Bullets flying around make you kinda forget things. Looks like they left with the Ukrainians about a hundred feet behind them!
What I see is a sorry looking NDP at best. Those places are never pretty, but when they leave they’re clean (unless they want you to find something). Probably had a bunch of jail house conscripts. We’ve seen a complete lack of skills in this entire invasion. Yet I’ve watched the otherside not take advantage of this (they are now)
gary
no! you replace about one third of the fuses with smoke grenade fuses. Then that other two and a half seconds to a full three seconds becomes your friend. After three or four blow up in their faces, they’ll almost refuse to use a grenade. C4 in place of gun powder does the same thing when the bolt goes thru the eyeball.
War is not a nice place to live in. I often refer to it as poison
gary
Certainly in the British Army, this level of ill-discipline would be intolerable, i’d venture to say, it would never happen - under ANY circumstances. In my day, any formation, at any level, caught in a similar state of disarray, would have been beasted to within an inch of its life.
This is indicative of a sloppy, inexperienced, poorly motivated, barely trained and poorly disciplined shower of an Army. Its embarassing in the extreme.
No member of the Canadian Armed Forces would ever let something like that go. The NCO creed: Never pass a fault. That encampment is a sign of; zero moral, zero leadership, zero training just a bunch of zeros.
Benefit of doubt, perhaps the encampment was cleared by EOD, hence the video? Otherwise, that’s a hard no to IED heaven opening crates, touching or moving anything until EOD clears it.