I feel that same with the Ukraine War Modeling thread; this must be done… So…
On Saturday, October 7th, 2023; The Palestinian Terrorist Group Hamas, launched Operation “Al-Aqsa Flood”. In response, the Israeli Defense Forces launched a counteroffensive, dubbed “Operation Iron Swords” to repel all Hamas terrorists from within their territory and to target terrorist infrastructure within Gaza. The war has already escalated with the terrorist group Hezbollah attacking IDF sites in Northern Israel from Southern Lebanon. This thread will cover all land combat vehicles in current usage by the IDF.
Please, refrain from political posts on this thread, we can move all political discourse to the “Israel Attacked” thread in the Off-Topic section of the forum. Let’s keep this one limited to scale modeling.
Armored vehicles, mostly M-113s being deployed to areas of ISrael, near the Gaza Border, these are taken from news sources, like CNN, FOX News and The Jerusalem Post.
For those of us who worry about getting the perfect “hang” of the tracks.
One is moving, the other is not. Tracks may be in different stages of wear and the track tension might be adjusted differently.
Right, and I would not say they are sagging, but tight. To me, when people say sagging, it is like a T34 or Panzer IV, where the track is laying on the tops of and sagging between road wheels and all wavy, like the IDF M113 shown above.
They are sagging by definition, which is to ‘sink or bulge downwards under weight or pressure’.
‘Sagging’ does not mean ‘hanging like a witch’s tit’.
In the pictures, you can visually confirm the ‘sag’. The Spartan has a lovely even ‘sag’, the CET’s track wouldn’t be ‘tight’ unless the track wasn’t in contact with all of the road wheels. The perfect ‘sag’ (sag being the actual word used in the crew manual) is where the track is touching the third road wheel, which it is.
Actually, the correct term is a ‘catenary action’.
Exactly, the same on an M113 or an M109. I think we are saying the same thing with a common language getting in the way. Saluting from across the pond.
