Look at the fin under the nose.
I wouldn’t be surprised if parts from all sorts of kits were used on it. I think I would have loved the job working in the effects department!
I don’t see it myself but I might be stuck on some old knowledge about the two series. It is my understanding that model makers/management for each series had different thoughts on how craft should look and drove design and building. SW was more of dirty finish, use any existing plastic to add on to the design. ST, was a clean world and was opposed to the add on of existing plastic to avoid viewers mixing ST and SW vehicles. I could be and have been wrong in the past, just what I recall.
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Yes Trek was a lot cleaner in it’s ship design as well as much more exotic warp and impulse engines.
Some of the alien races broke away from that design philosophy, mostly a visual decision to differentiate from Federation ships. Klingon Birds of Prey and Battlecruisers got a lot grungier and industrial looking for example. The Kazon were the same. Their ships were captured from another race that had oppressed them and were kept in service with patched up repairs.
I also think that the designers of Voyager wanted to make ships totally different to what had been seen before, so no separate engineering hull or paired nacelles. The Delta Quadrant would have a very different style to what the viewer had seen before. Even Voyager itself blends together.
At least that was my take on it.
Anyway, here’s the hatch part.
I can probably get a sharper photo a little later on.
I see that now, doh!
While researching where it might I came across this oddity. Ex Astris Scientia - Prop and Set Oddities
Parts of a Kazon raider were incorporated into an alien pistol, which appeared in several episodes and eventually as a Vulcan weapon in ENT: “Kir’Shara”. The partially green and red “ornament” and the engine casing can be seen on the pistol, probably taken from a Revell/Monogram model kit.
Vulcan weapon from ENT: “Kir’Shara”
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Yes I can see that on the muzzle. Same pattern.
Looks like part of the rear of the raider was used for the handle too. At least they made it look like part of the weapon. That hatch just looks stuck on with little thought or effort to make it appear part of the design. There are Sherman suspension parts similarly stuck on the Defiant in a similarly lazy way. A real shame as the rest of the ship looks well thought out.
I can’t remember which episode of Enterprise it was in, but I did once see a warp nacelle from a Klingon Vorcha reused as a hand held scanning device.
Yeah, lots of parts were used from other kits for the SW models too. Also the case for some of the hand guns used.
I had a bit of luck with the Rheintochter R-1 … I ordered just the missile and was going to kit bash the missile onto the top of a King Tiger Chassis. However, when the package was delivered, they had sent me the Rheintochter R-1 on Panther II chassis … so now there is no need for the kit bash, it will be a straight build depicting a 1946/47 vehicle … which leaves the King Tiger back on the shelf … unless I do that with some mods as an escort tank for the missile system … 
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Sounds good, Johnny. An excellent excuse to do some crazy camouflage and markings.
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Maybe make an ‘armoured’ box on top and use it as a reload carrier?
How about a flak putting this on top? Scale looks like it might not be overkill (well, not overkill on the overkill…):
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I do like the idea of the Ammo replen vehicle … that could be within my meagre scratch building skills… and it would need a crane or similar which I could re-purpose from my Miniart build …
as for the 128 Flak 40 … I think that would be to much for a KT hull to take.
It has limitations on the E100 hull I used on the 1/72 one I did. I think sometimes manufacturers look a what if or similar and just think " oh that would be good as a kit" without thinking about the actual practicality of it all. For example, the guns couldnt go to max elevation either gun front or gun rear, only if the turret and guns were slewed over the side, and if they had been slewed over the side for firing, I seriously think the wagon would of needed some form of ground anchor to keep it stable.
I think if they had ever gone into a production run and it was bare with no turret, it would only be workable on an E100 hull, even then, and as above, you wouldnt be able to fire it gun front or rear at full elevation as the rear of the barrels on recoil will smash into the decks and for even normal firing, I think you would need ground anchors of some description. The best way it would work would be to have them mounted at the rear on a turntable …?
but that ammo carrier … I do like it …damn you … 
Edit. but what to do with the lonely King Tiger turret … maybe a KingTigerturm ?
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It’s a modular thing. Takom make a big box of 1:72nd possible secondary weapons to mount on their P.1000 “Ratte”, and then see what will fit (sort of) to their E-series hulls.
If we’re talking 1:35th Takom do a “2-in-1” Flakpanzer Panther with alternative turrets which should leave one left over for another (KT?) hull.
Cheers,
M
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That could be a separate addition to a dio. Blown off the tank after an internal explosion. They don’t always land upside down or on their side.E.g.
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We are talking sci-fi here… There is no such thing as too much 
If a two legged robot is not blown over when it fires a huge shoulder mounted cannon, then don’t worry about recoil on a tank…
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Why not a turret bunker?
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That’s what I’m thinking… And the ammo replen wagon with the hull …
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Another possibility occurs to me. I assume we’re all familiar with the Bergepanther with the Flakvierling on top. I understand some one has, or intends to, bring out an experimental variant of that mount fitted with 30mm cannon; this might work as part of a “Panzer '46” lash-up.
Regards,
M
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Definitely potential there… I do like the ammo replen though…it makes sense for it to be a tracked vehicle in my mind to cope with difficult terrain and the weights involved … My only worry is the spare missiles… I’m going to wait and see what the dimensions are of the one on the kit and see how easy or difficult it would be to reproduce 2 or 3 as reloads…maybe without fins which are attached pre firing ??
I do have 2 Tiger 1s that could be bashed into an AA type wagon as I’m not overly worried about making them as normal gun tanks …
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Yes John, the plan was that the wing sections were to be added to the rocket on the launcher. The stabilising wing sections were of different types, meant to be different to meet the operational requirement of the time.
Here are the wing sections the Smithsonian has :
The Rocket itself was 6.3 m and will likely be longer than the KT Hull of 7.3m when you consider access to the driver hatches needs to be possible. Nothing to say the armoured box can’t overhang the rear a bit.
Other option is to have the armoured box overhang the driver area, have the rockets more centred outside the KT hull, and have hatches on the side/top of the box leading down to the driver and radio operator MG gunner area. Else have the Rockets along the centre and over the radio operator area, leaving the driver area clear, and have a cut out over the hull driver access with the area for fin storage in that shorter section behind the driver.
Given they were two stage rockets, so having the body stored in two parts for transport as an option, is not inconceivable and a further option. In fact, as the Turret is removed, you have all that area inside the hull to store the smaller stage in, with the larger rear stage stored over that. The circular opening could have been squared off for fit.
Lastly, it is sci-fi, so think KT TARDIS. The stowage space on the inside is bigger than the outside…
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Thanks for that link, quite interesting to see at least part of a real one. I am now thinking more of a built up framework on the upper hull with access for a driver and possibly a radio op/Comd - no hull MG fitted.
I am also thinking of having the frame on a turntable using the turret opening. I will look later tonight if its possible to remove the one from my KT turret if not scratch one or as another possible option using the hull from one of the 2 Tiger 1s ( or if lady luck is about, seeing if the turret base from a Tiger 1 will marry up with a KT hull ) I have and building that up as the ammo replen wagon … the big “IF” in all of this is how easy the missiles will be to make from scratch … we will see.
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Any help?
Cheers,
M
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