Centurions: Fist of the Empire

I don’t always have time for modeling… :sob: :sob:but now I have a killer pace… :grin:Thanks for your support :+1:

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I think this was discussed previously


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And all clear :+1:

I sprayed the basic camo outline, some corrections and curves needed, but I am happy with how it will look.

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I have a question - how to mount the rifle on parts N3 and part N3 to the commander’s cupola and how do parts I 35 and I45 relate to it?

Hi Piotr

on a British tank .
ok I45 is the arm that lifts up and. you place the .30 browning barrel in to stow it .
135 is the base plate for the commander .30 browning which secured by four bolts bolts on to the coupler ring ,
I43 this is to allow the commander to fire the commanders .30 from with his hatch whilst open up. it is in its stowed position.

this is different on mk 8,10 builds due to hatch configuration.

as far as Isreal versions
just look at a load of pictures and can not find one fitted to a Isreal centurion not even the first batch they got from UK

hope it helps
Ossie

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Thank you for the hint … but I still don’t see it (how to mount it on the model) :sob:

Michael means they were never fitted with this by the Israelis, so do not fit it to yours.

do you want to mount a .30 cal or a .50 cal? both can be used.

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could this be the ‘original’ mount? (ignore the red circle in the second photo)

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Hi top picture does show a .30 commanders mount as used on British tanks
Great picture
Thanks
Ossie

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I guess you have both options in the instructions. Either you use the Israeli MG mount or the British one described by Michael.
From what I understand of the sketch the base plate must be glued between the 2 raised lines on the skate ring.

Olivier

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Main camo paintjob done. I reverted to NATO Green over the Bronze green i had used at first.

Now for the detail painting and the tracks.

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Looking very convincing and promising!

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I want to mount a…30 inch as in the attached painting scheme

then follow the instrctions. Assemble the mg mount (I35, O4, I43, I45, I48, I53) and place it between the two raised line on the skate ring.
Then place part N3, after removing the raised detail,next to the mg mount.

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Then place part N3, after removing the raised detail,next to the mg mount.
That’s what I missed… :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:
Thank you Nikos!! :+1:

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And what now ? :thinking:

Now I just need the Complete Centurion User Guide (CCUG) which describes which bits and pieces are needed for the different Centurion Mk’s …

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hi Robin

these are great sets , I know the master maker and have helped .

so on late builds on three main builds .

mk 7 as per early hull , turret has 6 holes in front of gunners sight .
Mk8 has the mk 10 turret with split commanders hatch and mk7 decks

mk9 only one built just upgraded mk7

Mk10 new engine decks and split commanders hatch . This was exported to Israel and Sweden with these decks

complete gun tank uk family list:-

Basic Gun Tank Marks
A41 Mk 1:- built 1944 – 1948, Armed 17 Pdr Mk 6 (76.2mm) 20mm Polsten replace

later on by 7.92mm Besa. 100 built.
A41A Mk 2:- built 1945 – 1948, Armed 17 Pdr Mk 6 (76.2mm) 7.92mm Besa. 250 built.
Mk 3:- built 1948 – 1946, Armed 20 Pdr 6 (83.4mm). 7.92mm Besa. 2833 built.
A41T Mk 4:- not produced but was planned to have a 95mm Howitzer gun.

FV4011 Mk 5:- built 1956 – 1958, Armed 20 Pdr Mk 1 (83.4mm) .30 browning. 221 built.
Mk3 Fitted with Browning CO-AX Machine Gun Became an Mk 5
FV4011 Mk 5/1:- Mk 5 up armoured to Glacis plate
FV4011 Mk 5/2:- Mk 5 with 20 Pdr replaced by 105mm L7A1. No up armoured to Glacis plate fitted.

FV4011 Mk 6:- Mk 5 Up armoured and fitted with 105mm L7A1
FV4011 Mk 6/1:- Mk 6 Fitted with Infa Red Equipment, Rear Stowage basket.
FV4011 Mk 6/2:- Mk 6 Fitted with .50 Ranging Gun and not fit. No Infa Red Equipment, Rear Stowage basket fitted.
LR:- if Mk 3,5.6 Fitted with a 100Gallon bolt on fuel tank at the rear then it would be Mk 3LR,5LR,5/1LR,5/2LR, 6 LR,6/1LR& 6/2LR

FV4007 Mk 7:-built 1953 – 1960, new designed hull Armed 20 Pdr Mk 1 (83.4mm).30 browning. 775 built
FV4012 Mk 7/1:- Mk 7 up armoured to Glacis plate
FV4012 Mk 7/2:- Mk 7 with 20 Pdr replaced by 105mm L7A1. No up armoured to Glacis plate.

FV4012 Mk 8:- built 1956 – 1960 Mk 7 Hull, contra-rotating cupola and resilient mantel Armed 20 Pdr Mk 1 (83.4mm).30 browning. 108 built
FV4012 Mk 8/1:- Mk 8 up armoured to Glacis plate
FV4012 Mk 8/2:- Mk 8 with 20 Pdr replaced by 105mm L7A1. No up armoured to Glacis plate.

FV4015 Mk 9:-1959 only one built was an Mk 7 Up armoured and fitted with 105mm L7A1 Gun. Mk 7:- up armoured and fitted with 105mm L7A1 Gun became FV4015 Mk 9.

FV4015 Mk 9/1:- Fitted with Infa Red Equipment, Rear Stowage basket
FV4015 Mk 9/2:- Mk 9 Fitted with .50 Ranging Gun. no Infa Red Equipment, Rear Stowage basket fitted.

FV4017 Mk10:- built 1959-1960 Mk8 with up armoured to Glacis plate, 105mm L7A1. But has new chevron type louvered engine & gearbox decks. Last tank built was 03DA03 30/03/1962. In total 155 built.

FV4017 Mk11:- is a Mk 5 with Infa Red Equipment, Rear Stowage basket, Fitted with .50 Ranging Gun, up armoured to Glacis plate & 20 Pdr replaced by 105mm L7A1.

FV4017 Mk12:- is a Mk 7 with Infa Red Equipment, Rear Stowage basket, Fitted with .50 Ranging Gun, up armoured to Glacis plate & 20 Pdr replaced by 105mm L7A1.

FV4017 Mk13:- is a Mk 8 with Infa Red Equipment, Rear Stowage basket, Fitted with .50 Ranging Gun, up armoured to Glacis plate & 20 Pdr replaced by 105mm L7A1 or a
Mk 10 with Infa Red Equipment, Rear Stowage basket, Fitted with .50 Ranging Gun.

FV4019 Mk 5 Dozer: - Centurion Gun tank Mk 5 fitted with a hydraulically operated Dozer blade. By the installation of a 4BH engine and the fitting of the hydraulic operating rams & Dozer Blade. Mk 5/2:- 20 Pdr replaced by 105mm L7A1. No up armoured to Glacis plate fitted.
Mk5/3:- Fitted with .50 Ranging Gun. No Infa Red Equipment, Rear Stowage basket fitted.

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