I used to shoot sparrows with my issued M16. Mine jammed one time, and it was my fault. I left the door wide open in the back of a Jeep, and it was full of red dust. Lucky me as I caught it when I went to load it.
The real advantage of the M16 was that it had a very accurate and quick second and third shot. The M14 was accurate, but would be much slower on the second shot. You rarely tagged the other guy of the first shot.
gary
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This one has the same rail for sights as the M-16A4, like the ones that we were issued. And brand spanking new at that. Once we got those red dot M68 sights zeroed in, they were a superb combination, especially in low light conditions. Just curious, but weâre yourâs made by Fabrique National? Ours were.
H.P.
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Hopefully Miniart, employees and family are safe enough to even think about starting up operations again.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPhZraxWQAIqmDx?format=jpg&name=large
The one above is a repostâŚBut I leave it here 
H.P.
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You are providing some great references here Frenchy 
Does a Z = a bulls eye?
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Either way ⌠They are great aiming marks âŚ
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@Frenchy, i love the tractor trying to hook up to the helicopter and the tank at the filling station was brilliant. i hope the driver isnât Russian as no one accepts roubles anymore.
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True, but a 125mm can be pretty persuasive!
Ken
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I know I am an insignificant minnow in a large sea. But those T72 M1âs might be best left in the country they came from, and Crews sent there to train on them and set up an armor school. From all that I read, this might become protracted and trained crews will become valuable. Otherwise as low skilled crews are formed you will have abandoned vehicles for simple problems, poorly operated vehicles, high losses.
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@TopSmith Greg lets not help the Russians defeat the Ukrainians by giving them useful information and advice.
âdonât interrupt your enemy when he is making mistakesâ
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I was thinking of setting up an out of country armor school for the Ukranians.
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I thought the same thing, T72âs as stand-off artillery at best, ideally with remote-control firing control on a 200 metre long cable. Greg I think it was you several hundred posts ago (i.e. day before yesterday) valiantly attempting topic-relevance about modelling wrecked tanks? Iâm looking forward to seeing some modern/contemporary attempts (no shortage of photo refs) meanwhile hereâs a couple of mine, blasts from the past so to speak;
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Wow! Thereâs a lot in your post, so Iâll try to weed thru some of it (but maybe not in the order you wrote in).
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I can only recommend John Plasterâs book titled " SOG". I know Steve Keever in the book very well, and if you read the book he seems to show up regularly. Photos show him mostly with a generic M16.
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the rate of fire will be similar in all M16âs that use the same buffer / spring assembly. The receiver is the same. Weight is very little in difference. The one advantage is the over all length
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cut down RPDâs were common rolling thru A102. If your not having a brain fade moment you can follow the evolution of them, and wonder why the other side didnât adopt the revisions. The later ones used M14 flash suppressors with a barrel length of about eighteen inches (give or take two inches). The stocks were cut back about two inches as well (maybe three). Pretty much used nothing but drum magazines with them. Still not as good as a generic MG42 or the modern version.
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SOG kinda used whatever they wanted that day. Iâve seen them with AKâs and seen them with shotguns. Iâve heard of them using street sweepers, but never saw one.
*would a standard (generic) M16 been ideal? I doubt it. Iâve heard of them using M2 Carbines. Remember their plan was to never make physical contact with the enemy, and simply gather data for somebody with a big stick. Yes they got caught many times over, and often it wouldnât have made much of a difference whether they had an M16 or a CAR15. Myself, Iâll have to run that one by Steve to get his own opinion. (funny as I drank too much beer with him on the 29th). I see him two or three times a year these days as he moved down to Kentucky Lake. Before it was a daily affair.
By the way, I suggest reading Plasterâs book. Very accurate
gary
what you are seeing is kids drafted and being sent to a school on tanks. Theyâre taught out of the Russian version of a âTM Manualâ which is long known to be useless information. They are now going thru an apprenticeship in the art of survival (the rest falls into place). OJT can be a bitch with a cast iron hand. Or it can be fairly easy. Not easy in this situation. I did the same thing in the spring of 68, and simply will never forgive them that put me in that position. A year from now, thereâs gonna be a lot of unhappy kids returning home, and I pity the folks back home
gary
i am currently reading John plasterâs book SOG.
i have also read John Stryker Meyerâs books about SOG, all three of them as well as reading Lynne Blackâs book âWhiskey Tango Foxtrotâ which about his time in the 173rd Airborne and SOG. he has a great sense of humour by the way, well worth reading.
i have just finished re-reading Franklin D Millerâs âReflections of a Warriorâ about his five tours in Vietnam and his Medal of Honour. He was also wirh SOG but doesnât mention locations or what side of the fence he was onâŚprobably one of the first book i read about SOG years ago.
in my work bag i have Nick Brockenhausâ book âWhispers in the Tall Grassâ which i need to start reading once i finish building the 1/35 hasagawa tractor i bought.
Klaus
Yes, I agree (maybe - iâm no economics expert) but thats not the point.
The point is that its double standards/hypocrisy from the west. As it tends to be generally in these situations.
This is the exact version I was issued with:
As far as I know, ours were made in Canada, hence the Diemaco name.
Ambushed :
Flooded :
Another view of the GAZ-3344-20 Aleut tracked carrier (already seen from aboveâŚ)
H.P.
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